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   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: would banning usury cause our econom   
   16 Jan 26 18:04:27   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/15/2026 10:02 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 09:40:17 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/14/2026 9:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 09:16:22 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/14/2026 8:39 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:24:37 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/14/2026 8:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 07:47:58 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/13/2026 8:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 19:40:25 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2026 5:35 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the poor,   
   so   
   >>>>>>>>>>> they drive the bus in ways that actually help people.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That's easy for you to say, you've got no skin in the game.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The main flaw in your logic is you negate the principle that   
   everyone   
   >>>>>>>>>> should be equal under the law, including taxation on income.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> In fact, wealthy people give the most to charity and pay the   
   majority of   
   >>>>>>>>>> the US income tax.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Arguments against increasing taxes on the rich center primarily on   
   >>>>>>>>>> negative economic impacts, such as disincentivizing investment and   
   >>>>>>>>>> innovation. And, the risk of capital flight, as pointed out by   
   Wilson.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Plus, the logistical difficulty of implementation would be   
   practically   
   >>>>>>>>>> impossible.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Not practically but certainly politically.  What you are asking is   
   for   
   >>>>>>>>> people who have the power in society to somehow allow something   
   >>>>>>>>> contrary to their self interest.  Never going to happen, and once   
   >>>>>>>>> again points to the problem with libertarianism.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Wait! What?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You want to "tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to   
   the   
   >>>>>>>> poor, so they drive the bus in ways that actually help people."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Tax  the fuck out of the rich.  That's the trick the rich folks like   
   >>>>>>> to play.  Amounts that are pocket change to them seem like huge   
   >>>>>>> amounts to the rest of us.  So rich folks wail and moan as if they   
   >>>>>>> were actually being hurt, and some of us fall for it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It has been already proved by the data that the more you tax the   
   >>>>>> wealthy, the less tax is actually collected. The higher the taxes on the   
   >>>>>> wealthy, the more loop holes to avoid paying will be found. Wealthy   
   >>>>>> people donate the most to charity and pay most of the federal income   
   tax.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which shows how legislators want to seem to be taxing them, but   
   >>>>> provide legal ways to avoid it.  That does not mean there are not many   
   >>>>> not so legal ways.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All of which does not mean that wealth should not be taxed.  It only   
   >>>>> means we need to get serious about taxation.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> So. let me be clear - I am opposed to progressive income taxation, but   
   >>>> it would be fair if everyone paid an equal and flat income tax. However,   
   >>>> I not opposed to a consumption tax, especially on Canadian whiskey.   
   >>>   
   >>> The tax that a minimum wage earner could afford would not be fair for   
   >>> a ceo who gets paid million/billions yearly.   
   >>>   
   >> In all fairness, it's your choice, your responsibility.   
   >   
   > My choice to what?   
   > be a ceo   
   > pay taxes   
   > work at mcdonalds   
   > ?   
   In all fairness, it's your choice to do anything. You could have even   
   been a contender. It's your choice to pay income taxes or not.   
      
    >   
      
      
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>>> Let's just be fair!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> If you're unemployed, you pay zero income tax. In your case, you may pay   
   >>>>>> the Crown.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
      
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