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   Message 154,285 of 155,846   
   Noah Sombrero to Dude   
   Re: would banning usury cause our econom   
   16 Jan 26 21:14:01   
   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 18:04:27 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 1/15/2026 10:02 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 09:40:17 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/14/2026 9:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 09:16:22 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 1/14/2026 8:39 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:24:37 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 1/14/2026 8:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 07:47:58 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 1/13/2026 8:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 19:40:25 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/12/2026 5:35 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the poor,   
   so   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> they drive the bus in ways that actually help people.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> That's easy for you to say, you've got no skin in the game.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The main flaw in your logic is you negate the principle that   
   everyone   
   >>>>>>>>>>> should be equal under the law, including taxation on income.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> In fact, wealthy people give the most to charity and pay the   
   majority of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the US income tax.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Arguments against increasing taxes on the rich center primarily on   
   >>>>>>>>>>> negative economic impacts, such as disincentivizing investment and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> innovation. And, the risk of capital flight, as pointed out by   
   Wilson.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Plus, the logistical difficulty of implementation would be   
   practically   
   >>>>>>>>>>> impossible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not practically but certainly politically.  What you are asking is   
   for   
   >>>>>>>>>> people who have the power in society to somehow allow something   
   >>>>>>>>>> contrary to their self interest.  Never going to happen, and once   
   >>>>>>>>>> again points to the problem with libertarianism.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Wait! What?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You want to "tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>> poor, so they drive the bus in ways that actually help people."   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Tax  the fuck out of the rich.  That's the trick the rich folks like   
   >>>>>>>> to play.  Amounts that are pocket change to them seem like huge   
   >>>>>>>> amounts to the rest of us.  So rich folks wail and moan as if they   
   >>>>>>>> were actually being hurt, and some of us fall for it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It has been already proved by the data that the more you tax the   
   >>>>>>> wealthy, the less tax is actually collected. The higher the taxes on   
   the   
   >>>>>>> wealthy, the more loop holes to avoid paying will be found. Wealthy   
   >>>>>>> people donate the most to charity and pay most of the federal income   
   tax.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Which shows how legislators want to seem to be taxing them, but   
   >>>>>> provide legal ways to avoid it.  That does not mean there are not many   
   >>>>>> not so legal ways.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All of which does not mean that wealth should not be taxed.  It only   
   >>>>>> means we need to get serious about taxation.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> So. let me be clear - I am opposed to progressive income taxation, but   
   >>>>> it would be fair if everyone paid an equal and flat income tax. However,   
   >>>>> I not opposed to a consumption tax, especially on Canadian whiskey.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The tax that a minimum wage earner could afford would not be fair for   
   >>>> a ceo who gets paid million/billions yearly.   
   >>>>   
   >>> In all fairness, it's your choice, your responsibility.   
   >>   
   >> My choice to what?   
   >> be a ceo   
   >> pay taxes   
   >> work at mcdonalds   
   >> ?   
   >In all fairness, it's your choice to do anything. You could have even   
   >been a contender. It's your choice to pay income taxes or not.   
      
   Not fair at all.  Average iq is 100.  How smart is 100 iq?  Not very.   
   And when you consider that half the people are at that level or   
   lower... how is it that it is a person's choice whether to be a ceo or   
   not?   
      
   One of the things a person who lives a long time can tell you is that   
   "Life is not fair", really, really not.  How is it that some people   
   were born in south sudan and you were not?  You fucking privileged   
   little shit.   
      
   > >   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Let's just be fair!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If you're unemployed, you pay zero income tax. In your case, you may   
   pay   
   >>>>>>> the Crown.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
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   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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