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   On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:58:04 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 1/25/2026 10:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 10:01:06 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/23/2026 10:06 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/23/2026 9:46 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 1/23/26 9:35 AM, Julian wrote:   
   >>>>>> https://aeon.co/videos/would-immortality-offer-a-curse-of-boredom-or-   
   >>>>>> endless-novelty   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i mean our "mortality" may only be a delusion due to lack of direct   
   >>>>> evidence for what comes next anyways ?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> It appears that humans are the only entity in the entire universe that   
   >>>> is self conscious. Consciousness is the center of the universe - without   
   >>>> it, we would not exist.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Maybe when people die, only a small part is discarded: the individual   
   >>>> ego and the physical body. And, what is left is a spirit or expression   
   >>>> that exists in a state of pure consciousness, with no boundaries.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, maybe a physical part of us disappear, and they will be missed, but   
   >>>> what if our consciousness remains?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And, all our past actions, thoughts, dreams and memories are deposited   
   >>>> into a vast storehouse of consciousness, where anyone could freely   
   >>>> experience anything that ever happened or was dreamed, since man became   
   >>>> self conscious.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It sounds crazy! What time?   
   >>>>   
   >>> So, the historical Buddha taught that everything that happens, is caused   
   >>> by something else. The central philosophy of Buddhism: Causation   
   >>>   
   >>> It means that everything from causes and conditions—including physical   
   >>> bodies, mind, thoughts, and material objects—eventually passes away. All   
   >>> compounded, conditioned things are impermanent.   
   >>>   
   >>> "Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha   
   >>   
   >> Do you have a real quote of him saying that, or did somebody say he   
   >> said that?  Do we actually know what he really said, everything being   
   >> written down centuries after his death, as with all traditions.   
   >>   
   >These are all good points. Good work! I'm very impressed with your   
   >questions about Buddhist history.   
   >   
   >So, let me say just a word about that.   
   >   
   >Nobody knows for sure what the historical Buddha actually said, if   
   >anything, and the language he spoke is no longer extant. And, writing   
   >wasn't invented in India until the time of King Asoka in 250 BC with the   
   >erection of the Asokan Pillar at Sarnath in India.   
      
   So spank your little bottom for using Buddha to say what you want to   
   say but don't have the moxie to carry it off.   
      
   >What did it say?   
   >   
   >"Of all those things that from a cause arise,   
   >Tathagata the cause thereof has told;   
   >And how they cease to be, that too he tells,   
   >This is the doctrine of the Great Recluse."   
   >   
   >  - Prat?tyasamutp?da g?th? —?Translated by Nyanaponika Thera.   
   >   
   >That being said, there's no doubt that there was an historical person   
   >referred to as Thy Buddha, who was considered to be enlightened - the   
   >first historical yogi in India.   
   >   
   >So, it goes without saying, that nobody knows for sure what the Buddha   
   >actually said.   
   >   
   >He could have said nothing, since they called him the Shakya Muni, or   
   >The Silent Sage from the Shakya clan.   
   >   
   >Or, it could be said, or might be said, that the historical Buddha did   
   >not speak any verbal words all, but rather used a secret, esoteric   
   >method of communicating only to his inner circle.   
   >   
   >In a word: hand signals.   
   >   
   >The Buddha spoke not one word in his entire life - one single, hand sign   
   >says it all.   
   >   
   >If so, what was that sign?   
   > >   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Key Words:   
   >>>   
   >>> Conditioned and impermanent   
   >>>   
   >>> The question is, is this a form of nihilism, or enlightened truth?   
   >>>   
   >>> What if there really is no Spirit up in the Sky?   
   >>>   
   >>> Other questions:   
   >>>   
   >>> Is there an individual self monad?   
   >>> Where does our soul go when we die?   
   >>> Why do good people experience bad things?   
   >>> Are we bound or are we free?   
   >>> If bound, by what means can we free our self?   
   >>   
   >> The fact is that Buddha said forget about all such questions.  They   
   >> distract from your task here.  As far as we know what he actually   
   >> said.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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