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   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: Would immortality offer a curse of b   
   26 Jan 26 12:54:32   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/26/2026 10:58 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:38:49 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/25/2026 9:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:58:04 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/25/2026 10:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 10:01:06 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/23/2026 10:06 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 1/23/2026 9:46 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/23/26 9:35 AM, Julian wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> https://aeon.co/videos/would-immortality-offer-a-curse-of-boredom-or-   
   >>>>>>>>> endless-novelty   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> i mean our "mortality" may only be a delusion due to lack of direct   
   >>>>>>>> evidence for what comes next anyways ?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It appears that humans are the only entity in the entire universe that   
   >>>>>>> is self conscious. Consciousness is the center of the universe -   
   without   
   >>>>>>> it, we would not exist.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Maybe when people die, only a small part is discarded: the individual   
   >>>>>>> ego and the physical body. And, what is left is a spirit or expression   
   >>>>>>> that exists in a state of pure consciousness, with no boundaries.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So, maybe a physical part of us disappear, and they will be missed, but   
   >>>>>>> what if our consciousness remains?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And, all our past actions, thoughts, dreams and memories are deposited   
   >>>>>>> into a vast storehouse of consciousness, where anyone could freely   
   >>>>>>> experience anything that ever happened or was dreamed, since man became   
   >>>>>>> self conscious.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It sounds crazy! What time?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, the historical Buddha taught that everything that happens, is caused   
   >>>>>> by something else. The central philosophy of Buddhism: Causation   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It means that everything from causes and conditions—including physical   
   >>>>>> bodies, mind, thoughts, and material objects—eventually passes away.   
   All   
   >>>>>> compounded, conditioned things are impermanent.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do you have a real quote of him saying that, or did somebody say he   
   >>>>> said that?  Do we actually know what he really said, everything being   
   >>>>> written down centuries after his death, as with all traditions.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> These are all good points. Good work! I'm very impressed with your   
   >>>> questions about Buddhist history.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, let me say just a word about that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nobody knows for sure what the historical Buddha actually said, if   
   >>>> anything, and the language he spoke is no longer extant. And, writing   
   >>>> wasn't invented in India until the time of King Asoka in 250 BC with the   
   >>>> erection of the Asokan Pillar at Sarnath in India.   
   >>>   
   >>> So spank your little bottom for using Buddha to say what you want to   
   >>> say but don't have the moxie to carry it off.   
   >>>   
   >> So, I don't speak, read or write any common ancient language like   
   >> Sanskrit, current or ancient, so all I have to go on are what historians   
   >> have written about what the historical Buddha actually said.   
   >>   
   >> It is said, that starting with King Asoka in India, the King, apparently   
   >> erected a big, beautiful commemorative pillar carved from pure marble,   
   >> with a golden topper, in center the downtown public square, at the   
   >> crossroads to the beach and the Temple, where everyone could see it, at   
   >> least for those who could read - a message   
   >>   
   >> So, it kind of goes without saying, that if the Greatest Buddhist King   
   >> in the whole history of India and Southeast Asia, put up even a stick   
   >> with a Hindi note on it - and even one person saw it, you would expect   
   >> it to be somewhat true. Right?   
   >>   
   >> That being, said, nothing can probably compare to your vast knowledge of   
   >> Buddhist history. We would expect that after reading all the erudite   
   >> scholarly essays by Tang and Cupcake, for close to two decades.   
   >>   
   >> Keep up the good work!   
   >   
   > What you know is that I will never put my opinions in buddha's mouth.   
   >   
   Just wash your bowl!   
    >   
   > In fact fake quotes are such a well known phenom in internet land   
   > (einstein, jesus, marx, etc) that I mostly wouldn't quote anybody that   
   > is no longer alive.  Maybe mark twain a little bit, you know, lies,   
   > damned lies and statistics.  Stuff that is generally known and   
   > accepted to be his.   
   >   
   Now, you've got to admit, that's funny, coming from someone whose handle   
   is Noah Sombrero.   
      
   You can't make this stuff up. Good work!   
    >   
   > There are even several sites around that make it their business to   
   > have the authoritative word on whether somebody actually said what   
   > they are accused of saying.   
   >   
   Are you saying, that you think, the King of India and all of South Asia,   
   would erect a giant marble commemorative pillar and inscribe on it a   
   hoax, that has fooled every historian up to and including Sanskrit   
   scholars from China and Japan who have actually stood before the Asoka   
   Pillar at Sarnath and memorized every passage, for over 2,200 years?   
    >   
   > If you are tempted to quote lincoln, for instance, it would be a good   
   > idea to check.  Except the Gettysburg Address.  We all mostly know   
   > what that says and who said it.  Cause, if you don't check, I will   
   > probably catch you.  Be afraid.   
    >   
   Have you even seen a photo of the Asoka Pillar at Sarnath?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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