From: punditster@gmail.com
On 1/26/2026 12:59 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 12:54:32 -0800, Dude wrote:
>
>> On 1/26/2026 10:58 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:38:49 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2026 9:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:58:04 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/25/2026 10:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 10:01:06 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2026 10:06 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2026 9:46 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/26 9:35 AM, Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://aeon.co/videos/would-immortality-offer-a-cur
e-of-boredom-or-
>>>>>>>>>>> endless-novelty
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i mean our "mortality" may only be a delusion due to lack of direct
>>>>>>>>>> evidence for what comes next anyways ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It appears that humans are the only entity in the entire universe
that
>>>>>>>>> is self conscious. Consciousness is the center of the universe -
without
>>>>>>>>> it, we would not exist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe when people die, only a small part is discarded: the individual
>>>>>>>>> ego and the physical body. And, what is left is a spirit or
expression
>>>>>>>>> that exists in a state of pure consciousness, with no boundaries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, maybe a physical part of us disappear, and they will be missed,
but
>>>>>>>>> what if our consciousness remains?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, all our past actions, thoughts, dreams and memories are
deposited
>>>>>>>>> into a vast storehouse of consciousness, where anyone could freely
>>>>>>>>> experience anything that ever happened or was dreamed, since man
became
>>>>>>>>> self conscious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds crazy! What time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the historical Buddha taught that everything that happens, is
caused
>>>>>>>> by something else. The central philosophy of Buddhism: Causation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It means that everything from causes and conditions—including
physical
>>>>>>>> bodies, mind, thoughts, and material objects—eventually passes
away. All
>>>>>>>> compounded, conditioned things are impermanent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a real quote of him saying that, or did somebody say he
>>>>>>> said that? Do we actually know what he really said, everything being
>>>>>>> written down centuries after his death, as with all traditions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are all good points. Good work! I'm very impressed with your
>>>>>> questions about Buddhist history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, let me say just a word about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody knows for sure what the historical Buddha actually said, if
>>>>>> anything, and the language he spoke is no longer extant. And, writing
>>>>>> wasn't invented in India until the time of King Asoka in 250 BC with the
>>>>>> erection of the Asokan Pillar at Sarnath in India.
>>>>>
>>>>> So spank your little bottom for using Buddha to say what you want to
>>>>> say but don't have the moxie to carry it off.
>>>>>
>>>> So, I don't speak, read or write any common ancient language like
>>>> Sanskrit, current or ancient, so all I have to go on are what historians
>>>> have written about what the historical Buddha actually said.
>>>>
>>>> It is said, that starting with King Asoka in India, the King, apparently
>>>> erected a big, beautiful commemorative pillar carved from pure marble,
>>>> with a golden topper, in center the downtown public square, at the
>>>> crossroads to the beach and the Temple, where everyone could see it, at
>>>> least for those who could read - a message
>>>>
>>>> So, it kind of goes without saying, that if the Greatest Buddhist King
>>>> in the whole history of India and Southeast Asia, put up even a stick
>>>> with a Hindi note on it - and even one person saw it, you would expect
>>>> it to be somewhat true. Right?
>>>>
>>>> That being, said, nothing can probably compare to your vast knowledge of
>>>> Buddhist history. We would expect that after reading all the erudite
>>>> scholarly essays by Tang and Cupcake, for close to two decades.
>>>>
>>>> Keep up the good work!
>>>
>>> What you know is that I will never put my opinions in buddha's mouth.
>>>
>> Just wash your bowl!
>>>
>>> In fact fake quotes are such a well known phenom in internet land
>>> (einstein, jesus, marx, etc) that I mostly wouldn't quote anybody that
>>> is no longer alive. Maybe mark twain a little bit, you know, lies,
>>> damned lies and statistics. Stuff that is generally known and
>>> accepted to be his.
>>>
>> Now, you've got to admit, that's funny, coming from someone whose handle
>> is Noah Sombrero.
>
> I grant you full permission to quote whatever I say. Mark Twain was
> of course Samuel Clemmons as some of us know. He chose that pseudonym
> because he liked the sound of it, as we are all free to do if we
> choose.
>
Now, I'm almost sure you made that up.
>
>> You can't make this stuff up. Good work!
>>>
>>> There are even several sites around that make it their business to
>>> have the authoritative word on whether somebody actually said what
>>> they are accused of saying.
>>>
>> Are you saying, that you think, the King of India and all of South Asia,
>> would erect a giant marble commemorative pillar and inscribe on it a
>> hoax, that has fooled every historian up to and including Sanskrit
>> scholars from China and Japan who have actually stood before the Asoka
>> Pillar at Sarnath and memorized every passage, for over 2,200 years?
>
> I said no such thing.
>
There, I said it:
"Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha
>>>>
>> Have you even seen a photo of the Asoka Pillar at Sarnath?
>
> Not interested.
>
So, I'm going with the idea that at death, our individual soul monad, if
there is one, or our consciousness, dissolves into The Singular, and we
can all experience freedom together in a paradise of fully liberated
souls. YMMV.
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