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   On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 08:54:20 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 1/26/2026 12:59 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 12:54:32 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/26/2026 10:58 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:38:49 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 1/25/2026 9:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:58:04 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 1/25/2026 10:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 10:01:06 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2026 10:06 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2026 9:46 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/26 9:35 AM, Julian wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> https://aeon.co/videos/would-immortality-offer-a-cu   
   se-of-boredom-or-   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> endless-novelty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> i mean our "mortality" may only be a delusion due to lack of direct   
   >>>>>>>>>>> evidence for what comes next anyways ?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It appears that humans are the only entity in the entire universe   
   that   
   >>>>>>>>>> is self conscious. Consciousness is the center of the universe -   
   without   
   >>>>>>>>>> it, we would not exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Maybe when people die, only a small part is discarded: the   
   individual   
   >>>>>>>>>> ego and the physical body. And, what is left is a spirit or   
   expression   
   >>>>>>>>>> that exists in a state of pure consciousness, with no boundaries.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So, maybe a physical part of us disappear, and they will be missed,   
   but   
   >>>>>>>>>> what if our consciousness remains?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And, all our past actions, thoughts, dreams and memories are   
   deposited   
   >>>>>>>>>> into a vast storehouse of consciousness, where anyone could freely   
   >>>>>>>>>> experience anything that ever happened or was dreamed, since man   
   became   
   >>>>>>>>>> self conscious.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It sounds crazy! What time?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So, the historical Buddha taught that everything that happens, is   
   caused   
   >>>>>>>>> by something else. The central philosophy of Buddhism: Causation   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It means that everything from causes and conditions—including   
   physical   
   >>>>>>>>> bodies, mind, thoughts, and material objects—eventually passes away.   
   All   
   >>>>>>>>> compounded, conditioned things are impermanent.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Do you have a real quote of him saying that, or did somebody say he   
   >>>>>>>> said that?  Do we actually know what he really said, everything being   
   >>>>>>>> written down centuries after his death, as with all traditions.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> These are all good points. Good work! I'm very impressed with your   
   >>>>>>> questions about Buddhist history.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So, let me say just a word about that.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Nobody knows for sure what the historical Buddha actually said, if   
   >>>>>>> anything, and the language he spoke is no longer extant. And, writing   
   >>>>>>> wasn't invented in India until the time of King Asoka in 250 BC with   
   the   
   >>>>>>> erection of the Asokan Pillar at Sarnath in India.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So spank your little bottom for using Buddha to say what you want to   
   >>>>>> say but don't have the moxie to carry it off.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> So, I don't speak, read or write any common ancient language like   
   >>>>> Sanskrit, current or ancient, so all I have to go on are what historians   
   >>>>> have written about what the historical Buddha actually said.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It is said, that starting with King Asoka in India, the King, apparently   
   >>>>> erected a big, beautiful commemorative pillar carved from pure marble,   
   >>>>> with a golden topper, in center the downtown public square, at the   
   >>>>> crossroads to the beach and the Temple, where everyone could see it, at   
   >>>>> least for those who could read - a message   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So, it kind of goes without saying, that if the Greatest Buddhist King   
   >>>>> in the whole history of India and Southeast Asia, put up even a stick   
   >>>>> with a Hindi note on it - and even one person saw it, you would expect   
   >>>>> it to be somewhat true. Right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That being, said, nothing can probably compare to your vast knowledge of   
   >>>>> Buddhist history. We would expect that after reading all the erudite   
   >>>>> scholarly essays by Tang and Cupcake, for close to two decades.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Keep up the good work!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What you know is that I will never put my opinions in buddha's mouth.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Just wash your bowl!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In fact fake quotes are such a well known phenom in internet land   
   >>>> (einstein, jesus, marx, etc) that I mostly wouldn't quote anybody that   
   >>>> is no longer alive.  Maybe mark twain a little bit, you know, lies,   
   >>>> damned lies and statistics.  Stuff that is generally known and   
   >>>> accepted to be his.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Now, you've got to admit, that's funny, coming from someone whose handle   
   >>> is Noah Sombrero.   
   >>   
   >> I grant you full permission to quote whatever I say.  Mark Twain was   
   >> of course Samuel Clemmons as some of us know.  He chose that pseudonym   
   >> because he liked the sound of it, as we are all free to do if we   
   >> choose.   
   >>   
   >Now, I'm almost sure you made that up.   
      
   So it is that you confess your lack of historical knowledge.  Sorry to   
   hear that.  Before you accuse other people of making things up, you   
   might have a look at wiki:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain   
      
   >>> You can't make this stuff up. Good work!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There are even several sites around that make it their business to   
   >>>> have the authoritative word on whether somebody actually said what   
   >>>> they are accused of saying.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Are you saying, that you think, the King of India and all of South Asia,   
   >>> would erect a giant marble commemorative pillar and inscribe on it a   
   >>> hoax, that has fooled every historian up to and including Sanskrit   
   >>> scholars from China and Japan who have actually stood before the Asoka   
   >>> Pillar at Sarnath and memorized every passage, for over 2,200 years?   
   >>   
   >> I said no such thing.   
   >>   
   >There, I said it:   
   >   
   >"Everything happens for a reason." - Buddha   
   > >>>>   
   >>> Have you even seen a photo of the Asoka Pillar at Sarnath?   
   >>   
   >> Not interested.   
   > >   
   >So, I'm going with the idea that at death, our individual soul monad, if   
   >there is one, or our consciousness, dissolves into The Singular, and we   
   >can all experience freedom together in a paradise of fully liberated   
   >souls. YMMV.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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