From: punditster@gmail.com
On 1/31/2026 10:09 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 10:04:14 -0800, Dude wrote:
>
>> On 1/31/2026 9:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:25:03 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/31/2026 8:47 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 11:36:16 -0500, Wilson
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/30/2026 4:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 7:27 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:11:00 -0800, dart200
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we finally invented a type of good that has a zero-cost to copy, and
we
>>>>>>>>> still can't seem to figure out how to build a production system where
>>>>>>>>> all the products are freely distributed, cause we're so concerned
about
>>>>>>>>> getting payment upfront
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So there you have it. This is why commercialism always fails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bruh i'm talking about digital goods that are zero-cost to copy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> real goods aren't the same,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tho i might suggest we break out design vs production costs requiring
>>>>>>> that the consumer pay production price upfront ... while the design
>>>>>>> portion can be paid back as the consumer feels warranted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is moving more towards a gifting economy while dealing with the
>>>>>>> reality that production has actual sunk costs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i mean in the future maybe we will have the energy availability and
>>>>>>> labor efficiency to totally transcend markets entirely, but i don't
feel
>>>>>>> we're ready for such a stage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything must be paid for because we all must pay each other for
>>>>>>>> what others do for us with few exceptions. The system depends on us
>>>>>>>> all doing that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this especially fucks up computing. 99.99% of the industry has devolved
>>>>>>> into bullshit work that is not actually economically beneficial. but
>>>>>>> people need to get paid, and markets just don't have the capability to
>>>>>>> select for universal solutions to problems like we ought to be
>>>>>>> implementing with computing (since they rely on competition and
therefor
>>>>>>> competing systems/standards)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> computing systems are far more like governing systems than real goods
>>>>>>> production and we haven't collectively recognized that reality yet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fault that devolves from that is that some of us get more pay than
>>>>>>>> others, have more status than others, live apart from us in mansions,
>>>>>>>> work apart from us in skyscrapers in corner offices, so we have no
>>>>>>>> access to, never even see those people as far as we know. These are
>>>>>>>> the people who make the decisions in society. Their separateness
from
>>>>>>>> us means that they are never held accountable for bad self serving
>>>>>>>> decisions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When shit comes down, the blame goes to the person who enforces those
>>>>>>>> decisions, not to the decider. The enforcer is thrown under the bus,
>>>>>>>> quietly goes away, is fired or moved elsewhere. In rare cases, maybe
>>>>>>>> even get some jail time. But the decision stands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the rest of us are powerless. Why can't things be different? '
>>>>>>>> 1) because those who have the power like having power, will not allow
>>>>>>>> things to be different.
>>>>>>>> 2) because the rest of us like it that way too. We are powerless,
but
>>>>>>>> we are also blameless. The guy in the corner office at the top of a
>>>>>>>> skyscraper did it, not us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too radical? Of course it is, because this is the way things have
>>>>>>>> always been, since humans stopped being hunter gatherers. This is
how
>>>>>>>> we know how to be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's silly and entirely anti-consumer. it doesn't cost anything to
grant
>>>>>>>>> a consumer access to the digital good, let them have the experience
and
>>>>>>>>> decide after if it warrants payment for the experience. and for
>>>>>>>>> continued development by creator. this will create a better feedback
>>>>>>>>> system where people only pay for products they value after they had
the
>>>>>>>>> experience, not before...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> will some people cheat the system??? i guess, but that already
happens,
>>>>>>>>> and we end up with a worse feedback system where people have to pay
>>>>>>>>> speculatively upfront for the experience rather than paying back for
an
>>>>>>>>> experience they valued enough to voluntarily pay for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> never mind all the DRM and platform locking bull crap that just
wastes
>>>>>>>>> everyone's time with utter nonsense
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you know what will make the rest of us not powerless noah?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > consolidating our voice by committed consensus making
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > #god
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> something the rich are wholly incapable of doing even among themselves
>>>>>>> since they've mostly been selected and filtered by late stage hyper
>>>>>>> capitalism, so tbh they're powerless to set up a competing system of
>>>>>>> consensus making. that's so far off their radar they can't even imagine
>>>>>>> it coming ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Late stage capitalism"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.redd.it/6pz3jus402jc1.jpeg
>>>>>
>>>>> "No offense but," offense.
>>>>>
>>>>> The old deny what I am about to say before I say it trick.
>>>>>
>>>> So, I told them both to invest their money, if they have any, in
>>>> precious metals for economic stability and as a hedge against US dollar
>>>> inflation.
>>>>
>>>> The economic situation is clear:
>>>>
>>>> The U.S. government ran a budget deficit of $1.8 trillion in fiscal 2025
>>>> (ended Sept. 30), which sent the national debt to a record high of $38.5
>>>> trillion.
>>>>
>>>> "Throughout history, governments have opted to increase money supply to
>>>> devalue their domestic currencies in order to make challenging fiscal
>>>> deficits easier to manage. This time probably won't be any different,
>>>> which is why gold soared by a whopping 64% last year.
>>>
>>> You think 64% this year?
>>>
>> Obviously, banks are dumping the dollar.
>
> And the past is a map to the future?
>
Investing in precious metals has always been used as a hedge against
inflation. There's a limited supply. When the next depression hits, the
value of gold will increase.
>
>> Apparently, in a landmark development first seen in nearly 30 years,
>> global central banks now hold more gold than U.S. Treasuries in their
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