From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/31/2026 11:03 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 10:31:21 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/31/2026 10:12 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:57:40 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/31/2026 7:12 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 22:12:41 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/30/26 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 16:02:00 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 2:10 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 13:46:19 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 7:27 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:11:00 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> we finally invented a type of good that has a zero-cost to copy,   
   and we   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> still can't seem to figure out how to build a production system   
   where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> all the products are freely distributed, cause we're so concerned   
   about   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> getting payment upfront   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it.  This is why commercialism always fails.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> bruh i'm talking about digital goods that are zero-cost to copy   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But not zero cost to produce.  As a programmer myself, I have always   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> i feel u just entire missed the point of why i started this thread   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> pushed back against the idea that programmers don't need to get paid.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> only by donation if people feel it's warranted   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Remember shareware?  A hodge podge of unfinished somethings, thrown   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> remember linux??? oh wait, that runs like most of the internet by now,   
   >>>>>> it's impossible to forget   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> also like *all* programming infrastructure anyone uses to build anything   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> out there to see if there might be any interest.   
   >>>>>>> 1)  No great rush of interest, so I won't waste my time finishing it   
   >>>>>>> 2)  It is unfinished, so why would I be interested in it?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> look bro, i'm suggesting we *ban* the sale of close sourced software,   
   >>>>>> and remove copyrights for it   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> this isn't a competition between paradigms, this is changing the   
   >>>>>> paradigm such that we develop the will to support it   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> will some software then not get developed??? sure, but we're drowning in   
   >>>>>> *way* to much software so that's a good thing. more is not better, even   
   >>>>>> if most economists are moronically allergic to the notion that making   
   >>>>>> money =/= societal benefit   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So you want to trash an entire industry and a scholastic discipline.   
   >>>>> Are you expecting much pushback on that idea?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I say, for the most part, shareware has been a failed idea.  And   
   >>>>> linux, to be marginally comprehensible to the average dontnomuch,   
   >>>>> needed Red Hat to come along and commercialize it.  The last time I   
   >>>>> tried linux, it was a bitch trying to get drivers for the moderately   
   >>>>> high end amd radeon graphic card that I tend to run some years behind   
   >>>>> the market.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Like I tell wilson, sure the system we have is rotten.  And it is in   
   >>>>> dire need of improvement, but simply throwing away decades of social   
   >>>>> evolution and returning to some old failed previous idea is not going   
   >>>>> to make things better.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why do we have the systems we have, what problems were they meant to   
   >>>>> solve, and how can we actually try again and do better this time?  A   
   >>>>> little bit better, As we continually go three steps forward and two   
   >>>>> back.  Let's not make it an entire hike down the mountain back.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> So, I would recommend to you both, to just get yourself a Chrome Book.   
   >>>> You probably don't need much in the way of PC power for just texting on   
   >>>> the internet. YMMV.   
   >>>   
   >>> If that were all I need, that is all I would have.   
   >>>   
   >> Did you know that Chrome Books have a free text editor?   
   >   
   > I have been known to pay real $ for a good text editior.  Notepad and   
   > textpad need not apply.   
   >   
   A programmer probably doesn't need a fancy high powered text editor to   
   run on x86. Just upload in batches using an up to date modem and fast   
   internet.   
      
   It's digital creators that need an M5 chip.   
    >   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u can choose to not code, that's fine ... 99.99% of the industry is   
   bull   
   >>>>>>>> jobs so the less coders the better   
   >>>>>>>>   
      
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