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   Message 154,599 of 155,846   
   Noah Sombrero to Tara   
   Re: Plar Bears Get Fatter (1/2)   
   03 Feb 26 08:51:49   
   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 06:20:25 -0000 (UTC), Tara  wrote:   
      
   >Noah Sombrero  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 17:42:05 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/2/2026 4:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 15:51:53 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/2/2026 3:33 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 15:00:44 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 2:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 13:31:37 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 10:05 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 09:33:48 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 8:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 14:25:30 +0000, Julian    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Polar bears are getting fatter in the fastest-warming place on   
   Earth   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shrinking sea ice has made life harder for polar bears in many   
   parts of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Arctic, but the population in Svalbard seems to be thriving   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Polar bears have been getting fatter even as sea ice disappears   
   in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Norway?s Svalbard archipelago, the fastest-warming place on   
   Earth ? but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> scientists don?t expect the good times to last.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The northern Barents Sea, which stretches between Svalbard and   
   Russia?s   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic Ocean, has been heating up seven   
   times   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than the globe as a whole. The sea ice around Svalbard   
   lasts two   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> months less in winter and spring than it did two decades ago.   
   Bears now   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to swim 200 to 300 kilometres between hunting grounds on   
   the ice   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and snow dens on the islands where they give birth.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> But the average size and weight of the Svalbard bears have   
   increased   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> since 2000, a finding that surprised Jon Aars at the Norwegian   
   Polar   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Institute, who led the study.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?We should think about this as good news for Svalbard,? he says.   
   ?But if   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> you want bad news, you can just go and look somewhere else where   
   you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> have very, very firm evidence that climate change is impacting   
   polar   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> bears negatively.?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> This wide-ranging, solitary predator is split into 20   
   populations across   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the far north, where it is extremely difficult to count. While   
   its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers are declining in parts of Alaska, Canada and Greenland,   
   they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> appear to be stable or increasing in other places. For nine of   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> populations, data is too sparse to say.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Barents Sea population, which was estimated at 1900 to 3600   
   bears   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> two decades ago, is thought to be stable or perhaps even growing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Starting in 1995, Aars and his colleagues tranquilised 770 bears   
   with   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> dart guns from helicopters. They hopped out onto the snow or ice   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure their length and, to estimate weight, their girth at the   
   chest.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trend analysis showed this body condition decreased until 2000,   
   then   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> increased until the end of observations in 2019.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the spring, when ringed seals give birth to pups on the sea   
   ice,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> polar bears hunt them to build up stores of fat for the ice-free   
   months.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aars and his colleagues believe the shrinking ice area may be   
   making   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> these seals easier to find.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The bears are also exploiting new food sources. The   
   approximately 250   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals that remain on the islands when the ice recedes may   
   be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> hunting more bearded seals along the coast, as well as harbour   
   seals,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> which are spreading to Svalbard as the climate warms.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> These ?local bears? are increasingly ransacking duck and geese   
   colonies   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> for eggs, and they have been seen chasing down reindeer from a   
   growing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> cervid population. The carcasses of walruses, another species   
   that is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing there, can provide weeks of feasting.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alec Luhn / New Scientist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So it appears that the warming can no longer be dismissed as a   
   hoax.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for reminding us of that!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure this is still an issue these days. Almost everyone wants   
   >>>>>>>>>>> cleaner air, with less smog from vehicles and factories.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps soon, people will realize that whether or not the change   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> man made,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The hoax was the belief that humans can change the weather, one   
   way or   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the another. Global warming could be the result of sun flares.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Like your idea that maybe there is no real answer to whether a   
   person   
   >>>>>>>>>> knows the difference between right or wrong.  But the fact is that   
   >>>>>>>>>> there is a yes/no answer and that is what the judge and jury will   
   need   
   >>>>>>>>>> to hear.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> But for you, as long as it suits what you want to believe.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yes, there are somethings that can be done, and we know what that   
   is.   
   >>>>>>>>>> But guys like you cripple our ability to do those things.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> there is something people can do to lessen the effect.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, maybe.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The real issue, is the moral flag waving. Almost everyone exhales   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> eats beef. Some of your best friends probably drive ice cars and   
   buy   
   >>>>>>>>>>> imported dolls.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> None of which has anything to do with what can be done.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Admit it. You eat beef and drive an ice car. Wheres Nick?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> If this is such an important issue, why are some countries still   
   >>>>>>>>>>> powering energy from coal, instead of clean energy from nuclear?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Many were headed that way until himbo came along.  And no nuclear   
   >>>>>>>>>> energy is also not clean.  But it is a different kind of dirty.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Trump has nothing to do with your use, or not, of pollution producing   
   >>>>>>>>> agents like gasoline or coal produced electricity. Just turn your   
   light   
   >>>>>>>>> off and stay home. You are on your own, how far you want to go.   
   Recycle   
   >>>>>>>>> your plastic, if you wan to.   
   >>>>>>>>   
      
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