From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/1/2026 11:31 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 11:27:04 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/31/2026 11:03 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 10:31:21 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/31/2026 10:12 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:57:40 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/31/2026 7:12 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 22:12:41 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 16:02:00 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 2:10 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 13:46:19 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 7:27 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:11:00 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we finally invented a type of good that has a zero-cost to   
   copy, and we   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still can't seem to figure out how to build a production system   
   where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the products are freely distributed, cause we're so   
   concerned about   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting payment upfront   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it.  This is why commercialism always fails.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> bruh i'm talking about digital goods that are zero-cost to copy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> But not zero cost to produce.  As a programmer myself, I have   
   always   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> i feel u just entire missed the point of why i started this thread   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> pushed back against the idea that programmers don't need to get   
   paid.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> only by donation if people feel it's warranted   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Remember shareware?  A hodge podge of unfinished somethings, thrown   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> remember linux??? oh wait, that runs like most of the internet by now,   
   >>>>>>>> it's impossible to forget   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> also like *all* programming infrastructure anyone uses to build   
   anything   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> out there to see if there might be any interest.   
   >>>>>>>>> 1)  No great rush of interest, so I won't waste my time finishing it   
   >>>>>>>>> 2)  It is unfinished, so why would I be interested in it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> look bro, i'm suggesting we *ban* the sale of close sourced software,   
   >>>>>>>> and remove copyrights for it   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> this isn't a competition between paradigms, this is changing the   
   >>>>>>>> paradigm such that we develop the will to support it   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> will some software then not get developed??? sure, but we're drowning   
   in   
   >>>>>>>> *way* to much software so that's a good thing. more is not better,   
   even   
   >>>>>>>> if most economists are moronically allergic to the notion that making   
   >>>>>>>> money =/= societal benefit   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So you want to trash an entire industry and a scholastic discipline.   
   >>>>>>> Are you expecting much pushback on that idea?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I say, for the most part, shareware has been a failed idea.  And   
   >>>>>>> linux, to be marginally comprehensible to the average dontnomuch,   
   >>>>>>> needed Red Hat to come along and commercialize it.  The last time I   
   >>>>>>> tried linux, it was a bitch trying to get drivers for the moderately   
   >>>>>>> high end amd radeon graphic card that I tend to run some years behind   
   >>>>>>> the market.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Like I tell wilson, sure the system we have is rotten.  And it is in   
   >>>>>>> dire need of improvement, but simply throwing away decades of social   
   >>>>>>> evolution and returning to some old failed previous idea is not going   
   >>>>>>> to make things better.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why do we have the systems we have, what problems were they meant to   
   >>>>>>> solve, and how can we actually try again and do better this time?  A   
   >>>>>>> little bit better, As we continually go three steps forward and two   
   >>>>>>> back.  Let's not make it an entire hike down the mountain back.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, I would recommend to you both, to just get yourself a Chrome Book.   
   >>>>>> You probably don't need much in the way of PC power for just texting on   
   >>>>>> the internet. YMMV.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If that were all I need, that is all I would have.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Did you know that Chrome Books have a free text editor?   
   >>>   
   >>> I have been known to pay real $ for a good text editior.  Notepad and   
   >>> textpad need not apply.   
   >>>   
   >> A programmer probably doesn't need a fancy high powered text editor to   
   >> run on x86. Just upload in batches using an up to date modem and fast   
   >> internet.   
   >   
   > There are many uses for a good text editor beyond writing perl   
   > scripts.   
   >   
   Never under estimate plain text and a catchy phrase. Billy Ray Cyrus   
   earned over 14 mil from royalties for "Achy Breaky Heart"!   
    >   
      
   >> It's digital creators that need an M5 chip.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u can choose to not code, that's fine ... 99.99% of the industry is   
   bull   
   >>>>>>>>>> jobs so the less coders the better   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
      
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