XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   >>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   >>>>>>> which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have   
   >>>>> come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where the   
   >>>> overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed, with most   
   >>>> people are trapped in nation-states they can do little to escape,   
   >>>> and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do   
   >>>>> not add   
   >>>>   
   >>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>   
   >>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed in   
   >>>> action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first sentence...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>  >   
   >>>>  > #god   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>> individual."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u want   
   >>>> nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is... u just   
   >>>> want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push ur norms   
   >>>>   
   >>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded in   
   >>> the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>   
   >> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u suddenly   
   >> get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials involved in   
   >> exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>   
   > You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions, Nick. I   
   > already explained this three times.   
   >   
   > You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.   
      
   i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a bunch   
   of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
      
   grow the fuck up dude   
      
    > the rest of u too   
    >   
    > #god   
      
   or not and take ur ignorance to the grave eh???   
      
   maybe ur next life will teach u the valuable lessons u failed to learn   
   this life   
      
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