XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   >>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   >>>>>>>> which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have   
   >>>>>> come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where the   
   >>>>> overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed, with   
   >>>>> most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little to   
   >>>>> escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do   
   >>>>>> not add   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first sentence...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>  >   
   >>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u want   
   >>>>> nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is... u just   
   >>>>> want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push ur norms   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of one's   
   >>>> labor.   
   >>>   
   >>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u suddenly   
   >>> get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials involved in   
   >>> exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>   
   >> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions, Nick.   
   >> I already explained this three times.   
   >>   
   >> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.   
   >   
   > i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   > reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a bunch   
   > of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >   
   Are you nuts?   
      
   Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's free,   
   then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire garden.   
   Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
      
   We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   happened to them.   
      
   Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few countries   
   officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented systems that   
   restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
    >   
   > grow the fuck up dude   
   >   
   The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private property:   
      
   North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.   
   >   
   >  > the rest of u too   
   >  >   
   Let's not get personal.   
    >   
   >  > #god   
   >   
   > or not and take ur ignorance to the grave eh???   
   >   
   Study a history book, Nick. They are all are governed by communist   
   parties and utilize centralized economic planning.   
    >   
   > maybe ur next life will teach u the valuable lessons u failed to learn   
   > this life   
   >   
   "A penny saved is a penny earned." - Benjamin Franklin   
      
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