XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   >>>>>>>>> body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do   
   >>>>>>> not add   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u want   
   >>>>>> nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is... u just   
   >>>>>> want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push ur norms   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>   
   >>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions, Nick.   
   >>> I already explained this three times.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.   
   >>   
   >> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a bunch   
   >> of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>   
   > Are you nuts?   
   >   
   > Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's free,   
   > then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire garden.   
   > Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
      
   what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
      
   >   
   > We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   > happened to them.   
   >   
   > Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few countries   
   > officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented systems that   
   > restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
   >  >   
   >> grow the fuck up dude   
   >>   
   > The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private property:   
   >   
   > North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.   
      
   they didn't outlaw property right, they only gave those rights to the govt   
      
   and u forgot greenland, which also doesn't have property rights bc of   
   inuit traditions. no one ever talks about greenland.   
      
   >>   
   >>  > the rest of u too   
   >>  >   
   > Let's not get personal.   
   >  >   
   >>  > #god   
   >>   
   >> or not and take ur ignorance to the grave eh???   
   >>   
   > Study a history book, Nick. They are all are governed by communist   
   > parties and utilize centralized economic planning.   
      
   learn what a false dichotomy is dude, i know it's hard to realize   
   there's more than two options here   
      
   >  >   
   >> maybe ur next life will teach u the valuable lessons u failed to learn   
   >> this life   
   >>   
   > "A penny saved is a penny earned." - Benjamin Franklin   
      
   "When you die, you can't take your money with you" - some random   
   facebook post   
      
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