XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's   
   >>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...   
   >>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push   
   >>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.   
   >>>   
   >>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>   
   >> Are you nuts?   
   >>   
   >> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
   >> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire   
   >> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
   >   
   > what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
   >   
   >>   
   >> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   >> happened to them.   
   >>   
   >> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few   
   >> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented   
   >> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
   >>  >   
   >>> grow the fuck up dude   
   >>>   
   >> The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private   
   >> property:   
   >>   
   >> North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.   
   >   
   > they didn't outlaw property right, they only gave those rights to the govt   
   >   
   > and u forgot greenland, which also doesn't have property rights bc of   
   > inuit traditions. no one ever talks about greenland.   
   >   
      
   Greenlanders pay 44% taxes. All citizens of Greenland are subject to   
   personal taxation on the basis of full or limited tax liability.   
    >   
   >>>   
   >>>  > the rest of u too   
   >>>  >   
   >> Let's not get personal.   
   >>  >   
   >>>  > #god   
   >>>   
   >>> or not and take ur ignorance to the grave eh???   
   >>>   
   >> Study a history book, Nick. They are all are governed by communist   
   >> parties and utilize centralized economic planning.   
   >   
   > learn what a false dichotomy is dude, i know it's hard to realize   
   > there's more than two options here   
   >   
   >>  >   
   >>> maybe ur next life will teach u the valuable lessons u failed to   
   >>> learn this life   
   >>>   
   >> "A penny saved is a penny earned." - Benjamin Franklin   
   >   
   > "When you die, you can't take your money with you" - some random   
   > facebook post   
   >   
   "You've got to pay somebody."- BobDylan   
      
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