From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   >>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and   
   >>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   >>>>>>> which   
   >>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest   
   >>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your labor.   
   >>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,   
   >>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of resources and   
   >>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>> property   
   >>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>   
   >>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.   
   >>>   
   >>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your   
   >>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>   
   >>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>   
   >>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the fruit   
   >>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no say   
   >>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>   
   >> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little   
   >> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>   
   > That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or work   
   > at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence level   
   > as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >   
   > You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >  >   
   >> But it is not true.   
   >>   
   >> This is not true:   
   >>   
   > This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >   
   > All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
      
   body rights do not extend to property   
      
   property rights do not extend to ur body   
      
   they are different things   
      
   >  >   
   >>> food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> So, let's be clear.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Private property is a natural right: when you put labor in with   
   >>>>> nature,   
   >>>>> resources can be removed from the common state of nature and can be   
   >>>>> shared.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> All creatures, large and small, have homes where they go and reflect   
   >>>>>>> on their good fortune. Home is where your stuff is.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not this either.   
   >   
      
      
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