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   On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's   
   >>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...   
   >>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push   
   >>>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>>   
   >>> Are you nuts?   
   >>>   
   >>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
   >>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire   
   >>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
   >>   
   >> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   >>> happened to them.   
   >>>   
   >>> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few   
   >>> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented   
   >>> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
   >>>  >   
   >>>> grow the fuck up dude   
   >>>>   
   >>> The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private   
   >>> property:   
   >>>   
   >>> North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.   
   >>   
   >> they didn't outlaw property right, they only gave those rights to the govt   
   >>   
   >> and u forgot greenland, which also doesn't have property rights bc of   
   >> inuit traditions. no one ever talks about greenland.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Greenlanders pay 44% taxes. All citizens of Greenland are subject to   
   >personal taxation on the basis of full or limited tax liability.   
      
   And we all know how much you hate taxes.  I'd say it is for them to   
   decide.   
      
   >>>>   
   >>>>  > the rest of u too   
   >>>>  >   
   >>> Let's not get personal.   
   >>>  >   
   >>>>  > #god   
   >>>>   
   >>>> or not and take ur ignorance to the grave eh???   
   >>>>   
   >>> Study a history book, Nick. They are all are governed by communist   
   >>> parties and utilize centralized economic planning.   
   >>   
   >> learn what a false dichotomy is dude, i know it's hard to realize   
   >> there's more than two options here   
   >>   
   >>>  >   
   >>>> maybe ur next life will teach u the valuable lessons u failed to   
   >>>> learn this life   
   >>>>   
      
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