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On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:12:32 -0800, Dude wrote:
>On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and
>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where
>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,
>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little
>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will
>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I
>>>>>>>>>>> do not add
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed
>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of
>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first
>>>>>>>>>> sentence...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > #god
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the
>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the
>>>>>>>>>>> individual."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,
>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u
>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...
>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push
>>>>>>>>>> ur norms
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded
>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of
>>>>>>>>> one's labor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u
>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials
>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,
>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in nature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a
>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a
>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you nuts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's
>>>>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire
>>>>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God
>>>>
>>>> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what
>>>>> happened to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few
>>>>> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented
>>>>> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.
>>>>> >
>>>>>> grow the fuck up dude
>>>>>>
>>>>> The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private
>>>>> property:
>>>>>
>>>>> North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.
>>>>
>>>> they didn't outlaw property right, they only gave those rights to the govt
>>>>
>>>> and u forgot greenland, which also doesn't have property rights bc of
>>>> inuit traditions. no one ever talks about greenland.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Greenlanders pay 44% taxes. All citizens of Greenland are subject to
>>> personal taxation on the basis of full or limited tax liability.
>>
>> And we all know how much you hate taxes. I'd say it is for them to
>> decide.
>>
>Personally, I would never live and work in a state that garnished 50% of
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