From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 6:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 18:52:52 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the entire   
   world   
   >>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   future???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and   
   >>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body, which   
   >>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest   
   >>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your labor.   
   >>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,   
   >>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of resources and   
   >>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your property   
   >>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your   
   >>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the fruit   
   >>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no say   
   >>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>   
   >>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little   
   >>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>   
   >> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or work   
   >> at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence level   
   >> as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >   
   > Conservative propaganda again.  And again.  It ain't necussarily so.   
   > If it is so, you can be sure there is a dictator in the wood pile.   
   >   
   >> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>   
   >>> But it is not true.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is not true:   
   >>>   
   >> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>   
   >> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >   
   > And again.  Nobody wants to take your body.   
   >   
   This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
    >   
      
   >>>> food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, let's be clear.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Private property is a natural right: when you put labor in with nature,   
   >>>>>> resources can be removed from the common state of nature and can be   
   shared.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> All creatures, large and small, have homes where they go and reflect   
   >>>>>>>> on their good fortune. Home is where your stuff is.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not this either.   
      
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