From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/2026 10:58 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/4/26 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and   
   >>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   >>>>>>>>> body, which   
   >>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest   
   >>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   >>>>>>> labor.   
   >>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,   
   >>>>>>>>> work,   
   >>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of   
   >>>>>>> resources and   
   >>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>>>> property   
   >>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your   
   >>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the   
   >>>>> fruit   
   >>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no   
   >>>>> say   
   >>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little   
   >>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>   
   >>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or   
   >>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence   
   >>> level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>   
   >>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>  >   
   >>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>   
   >>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>   
   >>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>   
   >> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>   
   >> property rights do not extend to ur body   
   >>   
   >> they are different things   
   >   
   > to say they are the same thing is a category error   
   >   
   The phrase "all men are created equal" is in the preamble to the U.S.   
   Declaration of Independence. Drafted by Thomas Jefferson and adopted by   
   the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, it asserts that people are   
   endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of   
   happiness.   
      
   >>   
   >>>  >   
   >>>>> food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So, let's be clear.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Private property is a natural right: when you put labor in with   
   >>>>>>> nature,   
   >>>>>>> resources can be removed from the common state of nature and can   
   >>>>>>> be shared.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> All creatures, large and small, have homes where they go and   
   >>>>>>>>> reflect   
   >>>>>>>>> on their good fortune. Home is where your stuff is.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not this either.   
   >>>   
   >>   
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