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On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 11:34:07 -0800, Dude wrote:
>On 2/5/2026 9:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:43:34 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/5/2026 6:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 18:52:52 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the
entire world
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the
future???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a
problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no
problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"
>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and
>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private
>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,
which
>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest
>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your labor.
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make
>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,
>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of
>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of resources
and
>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your
property
>>>>>>>>> is your protection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your
>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the fruit
>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no say
>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has
>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be
>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little
>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or work
>>>>> at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence level
>>>>> as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.
>>>>
>>>> Conservative propaganda again. And again. It ain't necussarily so.
>>>> If it is so, you can be sure there is a dictator in the wood pile.
>>>>
>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it is not true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not true:
>>>>>>
>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?
>>>>>
>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.
>>>>
>>>> And again. Nobody wants to take your body.
>>>>
>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?
>>>>
>>
>> Creon can't help you.
>>
>Almost anyone except a moron could explain or recite the Preamble to the
>US Constitution. We studied this in third grade!
>
>"All men are created equal..."
>
>U.S. Declaration of Independence. Drafted by Thomas Jefferson and
>adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, it asserts that
>people are endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the
>pursuit of happiness.
It does not, however, say dude is right.
>The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution is the opening 52-word statement
>that defines the document's purpose, beginning with "We the People" to
>establish that the government derives its power from its citizens. It
>outlines goals to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure
>domestic tranquility, provide for common defense, promote general
>welfare, and secure liberty.
--
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
<<>> to <<>>
Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away
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