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   Message 154,701 of 155,846   
   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics   
   05 Feb 26 13:55:18   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 1:08 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 11:34:07 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/2026 9:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:43:34 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 6:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 18:52:52 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest   
   >>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,   
   work,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of resources   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   property   
   >>>>>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your   
   >>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the   
   fruit   
   >>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no   
   say   
   >>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has   
   >>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little   
   >>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or work   
   >>>>>> at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence level   
   >>>>>> as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Conservative propaganda again.  And again.  It ain't necussarily so.   
   >>>>> If it is so, you can be sure there is a dictator in the wood pile.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And again.  Nobody wants to take your body.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Creon can't help you.   
   >>>   
   >> Almost anyone except a moron could explain or recite the Preamble to the   
   >> US Constitution. We studied this in third grade!   
   >>   
   >> "All men are created equal..."   
   >>   
   >> U.S. Declaration of Independence. Drafted by Thomas Jefferson and   
   >> adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, it asserts that   
   >> people are endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the   
   >> pursuit of happiness.   
   >   
   > It does not, however, say dude is right.   
   > If someone said this around here, they would probably get head butted!   
      
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