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On 2/5/26 6:01 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 22:58:48 -0800, dart200
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/4/26 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the
>>>>>>>>>>> entire world
>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and
>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the
>>>>>>>>>>> future???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a
>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no
>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"
>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and
>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private
>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest
>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your labor.
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make
>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,
>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of
>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of resources
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your
>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>> is your protection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to college.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of your
>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, let me be clear:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the fruit
>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no say
>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it has
>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be
>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little
>>>>> bit you put in the pot.
>>>>>
>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or
>>>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence
>>>> level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.
>>>>
>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.
>>>> >
>>>>> But it is not true.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not true:
>>>>>
>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?
>>>>
>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.
>>>
>>> body rights do not extend to property
>>>
>>> property rights do not extend to ur body
>>>
>>> they are different things
>>
>> to say they are the same thing is a category error
>
> What is it when they say the same thing over and over?
repetition fallacy
>
>>>
>>>> >
>>>>>> food or shelter you're producing because it has
>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, let's be clear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Private property is a natural right: when you put labor in with
>>>>>>>> nature,
>>>>>>>> resources can be removed from the common state of nature and can
>>>>>>>> be shared.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All creatures, large and small, have homes where they go and
>>>>>>>>>> reflect
>>>>>>>>>> on their good fortune. Home is where your stuff is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not this either.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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