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On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:31:49 -0800, dart200
wrote:
>On 2/5/26 9:12 AM, Dude wrote:
>> On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boomernomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where
>>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,
>>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little
>>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will
>>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> do not add
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed
>>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of
>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first
>>>>>>>>>>> sentence...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > #god
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the
>>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> individual."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,
>>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u
>>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...
>>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push
>>>>>>>>>>> ur norms
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded
>>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of
>>>>>>>>>> one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u
>>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials
>>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,
>>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in
>>>>>>>> nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a
>>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a
>>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you nuts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's
>>>>>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire
>>>>>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God
>>>>>
>>>>> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what
>>>>>> happened to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few
>>>>>> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented
>>>>>> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> grow the fuck up dude
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private
>>>>>> property:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.
>>>>>
>>>>> they didn't outlaw property right, they only gave those rights to
>>>>> the govt
>>>>>
>>>>> and u forgot greenland, which also doesn't have property rights bc of
>>>>> inuit traditions. no one ever talks about greenland.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greenlanders pay 44% taxes. All citizens of Greenland are subject to
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