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   Message 154,708 of 155,846   
   Noah Sombrero to Dude   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics (1/2)   
   05 Feb 26 20:01:32   
   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:00:39 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 2/5/2026 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 11:22:31 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 9:51 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:42:34 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/5/2026 6:01 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 22:58:48 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/26 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material)   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   body,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your   
   greatest   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,   
   work,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of   
   resources   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to   
   college.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of   
   your   
   >>>>>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the   
   fruit   
   >>>>>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have   
   no say   
   >>>>>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it   
   has   
   >>>>>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>>>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what   
   little   
   >>>>>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or   
   >>>>>>>>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence   
   >>>>>>>>> level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>>>>>>>     >   
   >>>>>>>>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> property rights do not extend to ur body   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> they are different things   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> to say they are the same thing is a category error   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What is it when they say the same thing over and over?   
   >>>>>> A reply to a nonsense question?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Manifest disrespect for the opinions of others.   
   >>>>   
   >>> That's allowed in political discussions.   
   >>   
   >> Who made up that stupid rule?   
   >>   
   >It's not a rule, but it's acceptable to accuse your debate opponent of   
   >posting a category error, but not a critical error. It's just words on a   
   >screen.   
      
   That was dart's objection.  Mine was repeated identical responses.   
      
   I can't accuse you of a critical error?  In your dreams pal.   
      
   >>>>> So, lets be clear. Transparent. Boomer!   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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