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   Message 154,711 of 156,682   
   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics (1/2)   
   05 Feb 26 17:41:29   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 5:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:00:39 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/2026 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 11:22:31 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 9:51 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:42:34 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/5/2026 6:01 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 22:58:48 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material)   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking   
   boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property   
   rights and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   Private   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   body,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your   
   greatest   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,   
   work,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of   
   resources   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to   
   college.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of   
   your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the   
   fruit   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have   
   no say   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because   
   it has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>>>>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what   
   little   
   >>>>>>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or   
   >>>>>>>>>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low   
   subsistence   
   >>>>>>>>>> level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>>>>>>>>      >   
   >>>>>>>>>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> property rights do not extend to ur body   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> they are different things   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> to say they are the same thing is a category error   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What is it when they say the same thing over and over?   
   >>>>>>> A reply to a nonsense question?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Manifest disrespect for the opinions of others.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> That's allowed in political discussions.   
   >>>   
   >>> Who made up that stupid rule?   
   >>>   
   >> It's not a rule, but it's acceptable to accuse your debate opponent of   
   >> posting a category error, but not a critical error. It's just words on a   
   >> screen.   
   >   
   > That was dart's objection.  Mine was repeated identical responses.   
   >   
   > I can't accuse you of a critical error?  In your dreams pal.   
   >   
   It's not a critical error if you post an oranges and apples comparison   
   in a chat room discussion. It's a critical error when you are proved wrong.   
      
   So, why do you keep repeating the phrase "himbo" and Nick calls you a   
   "boomer", over and over again?   
      
   >>>>>> So, lets be clear. Transparent. Boomer!   
      
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