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   Message 154,712 of 155,846   
   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics (1/2)   
   05 Feb 26 17:33:09   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 5:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:31:49 -0800, dart200   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/26 9:12 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    > #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in   
   >>>>>>>>> nature.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >>>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Are you nuts?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
   >>>>>>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire   
   >>>>>>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   >>>>>>> happened to them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few   
   >>>>>>> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented   
   >>>>>>> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
   >>>>>>>    >   
   >>>>>>>> grow the fuck up dude   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The only five countries on the entire planet that outlaw private   
   >>>>>>> property:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.   
   >>>>>>   
      
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