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   On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:33:09 -0800, Dude wrote:   
      
   >On 2/5/2026 5:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:31:49 -0800, dart200   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/5/26 9:12 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> > #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally grounded   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in   
   >>>>>>>>>> nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >>>>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>>>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Are you nuts?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
   >>>>>>>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire   
   >>>>>>>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> We already went through this with the Diggers back in 1968. Look what   
   >>>>>>>> happened to them.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Almost all nations engage in some form of global trade, a few   
   >>>>>>>> countries officially operate under non-capitalist, socialist-oriented   
   >>>>>>>> systems that restrict private ownership in favor of state control.   
   >>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>> grow the fuck up dude   
   >>>>>>>>>   
      
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