From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid
On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into
>>>>>>>>>>>> the future???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have
>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:
>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"
>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property
>>>>>>>>>>> rights and
>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private
>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own
>>>>>>>>>>> body, which
>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest
>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your
>>>>>>>>> labor.
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,
>>>>>>>>>>> work,
>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of
>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of
>>>>>>>>> resources and
>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your
>>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>>> is your protection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to
>>>>>>> college.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the
>>>>>>> fruit
>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have
>>>>>>> no say
>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because
>>>>>>> it has
>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be
>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or
>>>>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low
>>>>> subsistence level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.
>>>>>
>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.
>>>>> >
>>>>>> But it is not true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not true:
>>>>>>
>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?
>>>>>
>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.
>>>>
>>>> body rights do not extend to property
>>>>
>>> Your body is your property, you own it.
>>
>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body
>>
> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy
> idea, Nick?
> > > u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with
> property,
>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.
>>
> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self defense.
> Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too. Don't get
> brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.
i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those
rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*
ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all
have human rights...
property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some
overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.
that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense
trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism
> > > and yes before u bring it up: you can sell the results of your labor
>> time, but not transfer ownership of ur body to another person
>>
>> unless u support slavery in which case i can just disregard u as being
>> a totally incoherent nutjob dude
>>
>>> Get wise, Nick!
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