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   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics (1/2)   
   06 Feb 26 10:05:37   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:27:12 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/2026 1:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 11:49:49 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 10:58 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/26 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> body, which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your greatest   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   >>>>>>>>>>> labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> work,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> resources and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>> property   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to   
   college.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit of   
   your   
   >>>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep "the   
   >>>>>>>>> fruit   
   >>>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have no   
   >>>>>>>>> say   
   >>>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because it   
   has   
   >>>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what little   
   >>>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard, or   
   >>>>>>> work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low subsistence   
   >>>>>>> level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>>>>>    >   
   >>>>>>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> property rights do not extend to ur body   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> they are different things   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> to say they are the same thing is a category error   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> The phrase "all men are created equal" is in the preamble to the U.S.   
   >>>> Declaration of Independence. Drafted by Thomas Jefferson and adopted by   
   >>>> the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, it asserts that people are   
   >>>> endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of   
   >>>> happiness.   
   >>>   
   >>> Where does in mention property rights?  Come on spare us your twisted   
   >>> definitions.   
   >>>   
   >> Are you sure you passed High School US Government class?   
   >>   
   >> The Fifth Amendment explicitly states that no person shall be "deprived   
   >> of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."   
   >   
   > So now you might want to argue about what constitutes due process.   
    >   
   With someone that failed to pass Government in High School?   
    >   
   You   
   > do know that whole thing is meant to finance new cars and big houses   
   > for lawyers.   
    >   
   Not entirely sure you didn't just make that up.   
    >   
   > And the one with the most expensive lawyer wins.   
   >   
   Pretty sure you made that up.   
    > >> There's a thought, so you'll never be able to say I'm sorry.   
      
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