XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/26 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/4/2026 3:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the entire   
   >>>>>> world   
   >>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a problem   
   >>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   >>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights and   
   >>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   >>>>> which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,   
   >>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>   
   >>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have   
   >>> come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>   
   >> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where the   
   >> overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed, with most   
   >> people are trapped in nation-states they can do little to escape, and   
   >> the population is *still* rising...   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within   
   >>> limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add   
   >>   
   >> words are fucking cheap   
   >>   
   >> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed in   
   >> action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>   
   >> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first sentence...   
   >>   
   >>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>  >   
   >>  > #god   
   >   
   > You clearly don't understand what's being said there regarding the   
   > limits on rightful action.   
      
   and you clearly don't understand what's being said on the vast   
   existential obstruction generated thru supposed "rightful action"   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's   
   >>> will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."   
   >>   
   >> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>   
   >> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote, cause   
   >> obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>   
   >> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u want   
   >> nothing to do with asking what people's will actually is... u just   
   >> want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to push ur norms   
   >>   
   >   
   > My life and property are not up for a vote. I don't recognize any   
   > authority that would allow that.   
      
   christians never understand that green is a sin for some reason   
      
   >   
   > But hey, they might decide to try to take it by force. If that happens,   
   > maybe they'll be lucky or skilled enough to make that happen, in which   
   > case they will win. It won't however be voluntary or peaceful.   
      
      
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