home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.buddha.short.fat.guy      Uhhh not sure, something about Buddhism      155,846 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 154,737 of 155,846   
   Dude to All   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics   
   06 Feb 26 10:08:08   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/5/2026 7:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/26 6:52 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:31:24 -0800, Dude    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 4:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:41:48 -0800, Dude    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 10:07 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> display: no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> rights and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> body, which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You own your own body and mind, Nick. Your health is your   
   >>>>>>>>>> greatest   
   >>>>>>>>>> wealth. It's all yours. You have a right to the fruits of your   
   >>>>>>>>>> labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you are a slave - the property of others.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> to make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> live, work,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> rights of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Obviously, ownership promotes responsible stewardship of   
   >>>>>>>>>> resources and   
   >>>>>>>>>> acts as a barrier against violating the rights of others. Your   
   >>>>>>>>>> property   
   >>>>>>>>>> is your protection.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Repeating this assertion does not answer objections raised to it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What planet are you living on? I thought you said you went to   
   >>>>>>>> college.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "You own your own body you have an inherent right to the fruit   
   >>>>>>>> of your   
   >>>>>>>> own labor." - John Locke   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So, let me be clear:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Under communism, you don't own anything, and you do not keep   
   >>>>>>>> "the fruit   
   >>>>>>>> of your labor", since it has to go to other people that need it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Under the communist notion of freedom you are not free, you have   
   >>>>>>>> no say   
   >>>>>>>> on what to do with the food or shelter you're producing because   
   >>>>>>>> it has   
   >>>>>>>> to go to the State, to be distributed to other people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If that were true, then the fruits of their labor would also be   
   >>>>>>> distributed to you, which would be an enormous profit over what   
   >>>>>>> little   
   >>>>>>> bit you put in the pot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's where the problem is - there's no incentive to work hard,   
   >>>>>> or work at all, when you get on the State dole. The same low   
   >>>>>> subsistence level as everyone else, forever poor, owned by the State.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You already know this is state capitalism, right?, right.   
   >>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>> But it is not true.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This is not true:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This is nuts! Where's Creon?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All creatures great and small are entitled to their own body.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Your body is your property, you own it.   
   >>>   
   >>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body   
   >>>   
   >> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy   
   >> idea, Nick?   
   >>  > > u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with   
   >> property,   
   >>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.   
   >>>   
   >> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self defense.   
   >> Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too. Don't get   
   >> brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.   
   >   
   > i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those   
   > rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*   
   >   
   > ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all   
   > have human rights...   
   >   
   > property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some   
   > overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.   
   >   
   > that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense   
   > trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism   
   >   
   If you said that around here, someone might say, Dude, I will fuck you up!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca