From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 13:18:45 -0500, Wilson    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 2/5/2026 10:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Your body is your property, you own it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body   
   >>>>   
   >>> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy   
   >>> idea, Nick?   
   >>>> u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with property,   
   >>>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self defense.   
   >>> Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too. Don't get   
   >>> brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.   
   >>   
   >> i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those   
   >> rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*   
   >>   
   >> ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all   
   >> have human rights...   
   >>   
   >> property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some   
   >> overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.   
   >>   
   >> that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense   
   >> trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism   
   >   
   >First off, coercive capitalism is not a real thing.   
      
   If you are at the top of the money chain, and you measure success and   
   what matters in terms of that.  If that, then you don't feel   
   especially coerced.  Because you are doing the coercion.   
      
      
   >The concept of self-ownership, the idea that individuals have exclusive   
   >moral and legal control over their own bodies, is a foundational ethical   
   >and legal principle.   
      
      
   >You have rights to bodily integrity, autonomy, and inviolability. This   
   >is the basis for prohibitions on assault, battery, and non-consensual   
   >medical treatment.   
   >   
   >Legally property rights don't extend to one's body, but in a deeper   
   >moral sense the principle of self-ownership treats the body as the   
   >original and most fundamental "property" an individual possesses.   
   >   
   >Individuals own themselves because they own their labor, and the body is   
   >the instrument of labor. Or as John Locke said, "Every man has a   
   >property in his own person". This is the foundation for all rights to   
   >external objects. And it's the idea that underpins all of modern human   
   >rights theory.   
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