From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/2026 1:29 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/6/26 10:18 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/5/2026 10:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Your body is your property, you own it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy   
   >>>> idea, Nick?   
   >>>>> u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with   
   >>>>> property,   
   >>>>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self   
   >>>> defense. Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too.   
   >>>> Don't get brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.   
   >>>   
   >>> i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those   
   >>> rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*   
   >>>   
   >>> ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all   
   >>> have human rights...   
   >>>   
   >>> property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some   
   >>> overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.   
   >>>   
   >>> that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense   
   >>> trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism   
   >>   
   >> First off, coercive capitalism is not a real thing.   
   >   
   > nigga u dumb if u think captialism could stand not having a massive   
   > legal system enforcing adherence to property norms   
      
   The legal system to enforce property norms is actually there to reduce   
   violence.   
      
   >> The concept of self-ownership, the idea that individuals have   
   >> exclusive moral and legal control over their own bodies, is a   
   >> foundational ethical and legal principle.   
   >>   
   >> You have rights to bodily integrity, autonomy, and inviolability. This   
   >> is the basis for prohibitions on assault, battery, and non-consensual   
   >> medical treatment.   
   >>   
   >> Legally property rights don't extend to one's body, but in a deeper   
   >> moral sense the principle of self-ownership treats the body as the   
   >> original and most fundamental "property" an individual possesses.   
   >>   
   >> Individuals own themselves because they own their labor, and the body   
   >> is the instrument of labor. Or as John Locke said, "Every man has a   
   >> property in his own person". This is the foundation for all rights to   
   >> external objects. And it's the idea that underpins all of modern human   
   >> rights theory.   
   >>   
   >   
   > i will never agree that childish first come first serve "muh labor"   
   > ethics in regards to utilizing land/resources is a good, let alone   
   > sustainable, paradigm for society   
      
   That's fine. Just don't encroach on other people's stuff and we'll be okay.   
      
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