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   On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 09:39:53 -0800, Dude wrote:   
      
   >On 2/5/2026 6:26 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:33:09 -0800, Dude wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 5:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:31:49 -0800, dart200   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/5/26 9:12 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u   
   have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians   
   display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with   
   "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property   
   rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own   
   one's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the   
   rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do   
   little   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally   
   obstructed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global vote,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth moron...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually   
   is...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to   
   push   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally   
   grounded   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Are you nuts?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
   >>>>>>>>>> free, then it's yours. "You can pick all the fruit from the entire   
   >>>>>>>>>> garden. Then, you can retire to your place." - God   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> what worked for 2026BC ain't gunna work for 2026AD   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
      
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