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   Message 154,746 of 155,846   
   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: on freaking boomernomics (1/2)   
   06 Feb 26 11:18:22   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/6/2026 10:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 09:39:53 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/2026 6:26 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:33:09 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 5:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:31:49 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2/5/26 9:12 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/5/2026 5:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 21:30:14 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 6:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 6:19 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 2:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:43 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 1:28 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 12:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u   
   have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians   
   display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with   
   "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property   
   rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own   
   one's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the   
   rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization   
   where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do   
   little   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our   
   will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others.   
   I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally   
   obstructed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      > #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u know how i'm sure? u even acknowledge it:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're so obstructed u wouldn't put this up for a global   
   vote,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause obviously they'd fucking redistribute the wealth   
   moron...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u can wax on and on about will all you want, the reality is u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want nothing to do with asking what people's will actually   
   is...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u just want to use some moral high ground as a platitude to   
   push   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ur norms   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of moral high ground private property is morally   
   grounded   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right to own one's body, which extends to the fruits of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm sorry, no one actually explained why doing labor means u   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly get to indefinitely own the land/resources/materials   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved in exclusion of everyone else on the planet   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you ask questions,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick. I already explained this three times.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have an inherent right to eat the fruit you picked found in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> i don't agree finders keeps is the kind of principle we can found   
   a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable society on. it's just school yard ethics wrapped in a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of fancy words, and that doesn't make it better...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Are you nuts?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Society and civilization was founded on the principle of, if it's   
      
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