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   On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 11:11:06 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 2/6/2026 10:51 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 12:24:47 -0500, Wilson    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/4/2026 12:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 11:19:01 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/3/2026 2:00 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 13:15:13 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,   
   >>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have come   
   >>>>>>> up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within   
   >>>>>>> limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add   
   >>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's   
   >>>>>>> will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Like when we drag "illegal" immigrants from their homes and ship them   
   >>>>>> off to prison or some ugly place.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Breaking laws is like that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I seem to remember   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> "I do not add   
   >>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's   
   >>>>> will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You did say that right?   
   >>>   
   >>> A nation is not just a patch of land, it's the people. Collectively   
   >>> those people have the ability and the responsibility to determine who is   
   >>> allowed to enter. Our current system chooses who makes the rules via   
   >>> election. Biden chose to ignore immigration law and allow millions to   
   >>> enter illegally. Trump has decided to actually enforce the law and has   
   >>> effectively ended illegal border crossings.   
   >>>   
   >>> TLDR: Illegal border jumpers have trespassed, and as such their right to   
   >>> be here is forfeit.   
   >>   
   >> You seem to have forgotten about that "law is the tyrant's will" part.   
   >> And furthermore   
   >>   
   >>> those people have the ability and the responsibility to determine who is   
   allowed to enter.   
   >>   
   >> Himbo might have won a small majority in the election, but he did not   
   >> win a consensus.  And so some of us feel it is our responsibility to   
   >> stand up and say, you do not speak or act for me, asshole.   
   > >   
   >It's not exactly clear if you have any United States rights. As an   
   >immigrant, you'd be biased in your opinion anyway. Are you familiar with   
   >the phrase "We the people..."?   
      
   That phrase applies when  in fact "We the people" have decided   
   something, but not when slightly more than half decides something.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
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   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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