From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/6/2026 10:36 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 13:18:45 -0500, Wilson    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/5/2026 10:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Your body is your property, you own it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy   
   >>>> idea, Nick?   
   >>>>> u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with property,   
   >>>>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self defense.   
   >>>> Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too. Don't get   
   >>>> brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.   
   >>>   
   >>> i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those   
   >>> rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*   
   >>>   
   >>> ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all   
   >>> have human rights...   
   >>>   
   >>> property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some   
   >>> overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.   
   >>>   
   >>> that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense   
   >>> trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism   
   >>   
   >> First off, coercive capitalism is not a real thing.   
   >   
   > If you are at the top of the money chain, and you measure success and   
   > what matters in terms of that.  If that, then you don't feel   
   > especially coerced.  Because you are doing the coercion.   
   >   
   So, I'm not sure you didn't just make that up.   
      
   And, how would you know what it's like up the money change?   
    >   
   >   
   >> The concept of self-ownership, the idea that individuals have exclusive   
   >> moral and legal control over their own bodies, is a foundational ethical   
   >> and legal principle.   
   >   
   >   
   >> You have rights to bodily integrity, autonomy, and inviolability. This   
   >> is the basis for prohibitions on assault, battery, and non-consensual   
   >> medical treatment.   
   >>   
   >> Legally property rights don't extend to one's body, but in a deeper   
   >> moral sense the principle of self-ownership treats the body as the   
   >> original and most fundamental "property" an individual possesses.   
   >>   
   >> Individuals own themselves because they own their labor, and the body is   
   >> the instrument of labor. Or as John Locke said, "Every man has a   
   >> property in his own person". This is the foundation for all rights to   
   >> external objects. And it's the idea that underpins all of modern human   
   >> rights theory.   
      
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