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   On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 12:02:18 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 2/6/2026 10:36 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 13:18:45 -0500, Wilson    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 10:50 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/5/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/5/2026 4:30 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/5/26 9:30 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 10:56 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> body rights do not extend to property   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Your body is your property, you own it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> negative, u do not "own" your body, you *are* your body   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> You can't force me to get a COVID shot. Where did you get that crazy   
   >>>>> idea, Nick?   
   >>>>>> u cannot sell ur whole body to another owner like you can with property,   
   >>>>>> therefor the rights are very much distinct.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Your body is your body. You own it. You have a right to self defense.   
   >>>>> Don't let them take your body, Nick. It's your mind too. Don't get   
   >>>>> brainwashed into thinking you have no human rights.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i have *human rights*, and because i *am* my body, my body has those   
   >>>> rights as well and *i* am inseparable from *my body*   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ownership rights are not needed for my body because i and my body all   
   >>>> have human rights...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> property/ownershp rights are for property, the fact there is some   
   >>>> overlap kinda, does not then imply they are the same things.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> that's a *false equivalence*, and ultimately just liberal nonsense   
   >>>> trying to pathetically justify the continued use of coercive capitalism   
   >>>   
   >>> First off, coercive capitalism is not a real thing.   
   >>   
   >> If you are at the top of the money chain, and you measure success and   
   >> what matters in terms of that.  If that, then you don't feel   
   >> especially coerced.  Because you are doing the coercion.   
   >>   
   >So, I'm not sure you didn't just make that up.   
   >   
   >And, how would you know what it's like up the money change?   
      
   I didn't expect that you would be aware of the situation or even admit   
   the situation.   
      
   > >   
   >>   
   >>> The concept of self-ownership, the idea that individuals have exclusive   
   >>> moral and legal control over their own bodies, is a foundational ethical   
   >>> and legal principle.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> You have rights to bodily integrity, autonomy, and inviolability. This   
   >>> is the basis for prohibitions on assault, battery, and non-consensual   
   >>> medical treatment.   
   >>>   
   >>> Legally property rights don't extend to one's body, but in a deeper   
   >>> moral sense the principle of self-ownership treats the body as the   
   >>> original and most fundamental "property" an individual possesses.   
   >>>   
   >>> Individuals own themselves because they own their labor, and the body is   
   >>> the instrument of labor. Or as John Locke said, "Every man has a   
   >>> property in his own person". This is the foundation for all rights to   
   >>> external objects. And it's the idea that underpins all of modern human   
   >>> rights theory.   
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