From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/2026 2:18 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/6/2026 10:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 09:39:53 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>> On 2/5/2026 6:26 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:33:09 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating for   
   >>>>> collective   
   >>>>> or government ownership and administration of the means of production   
   >>>>> and distribution of goods.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You mean that you allege that is always how it ends up being.   
   >>>>   
   >>> What I mean is, that most socialist leaning countries use capitalism for   
   >>> economic growth. Countries that are one party, communist states that are   
   >>> socialist end up being the poorest nations on earth.   
   >>>   
   >>>   Nordic countries (like Sweden, Denmark) are social democracies, using   
   >>> capitalist economies to fund robust welfare states, a distinction often   
   >>> confused with socialism, as Tara pointed out.   
   >>   
   >> Which is why we call them "social democracies".  Which does not mean   
   >> they are welfare states.   
   >  >   
   > A rose is a rose with another name.   
   >   
   > Social democracy combines a representative democracy and a market-   
   > oriented economy with extensive government intervention, including a   
   > robust welfare system and progressive taxation.   
   >   
   > Look it up.   
      
   Noah's out here redefining words and concepts now.   
      
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