XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/2026 2:33 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/6/26 10:33 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/6/2026 1:25 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/6/26 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 3:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display: no   
   >>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body. Private   
   >>>>>>>> property is morally grounded in the right to own one's own body,   
   >>>>>>>> which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have   
   >>>>>> come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where the   
   >>>>> overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed, with   
   >>>>> most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little to   
   >>>>> escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do   
   >>>>>> not add   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first sentence...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>  >   
   >>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You clearly don't understand what's being said there regarding the   
   >>>> limits on rightful action.   
   >>>   
   >>> and you clearly don't understand what's being said on the vast   
   >>> existential obstruction generated thru supposed "rightful action"   
   >>   
   >> I don't even understand that sentence, so you might be right!   
   >>   
   >   
   >    > the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed in   
   >    > action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >   
      
   They are obstructed in their action to take other people's property by   
   ethical standards which are agreed upon by an actual real world   
   consensus (as opposed to wishes and hopes).   
      
   Don't take other peoples stuff and it won't get ugly.   
      
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