From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/26 3:17 PM, Creon wrote:   
   > At Fri, 6 Feb 2026 11:11:06 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/6/2026 10:51 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 12:24:47 -0500, Wilson    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/4/2026 12:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 11:19:01 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/3/2026 2:00 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 13:15:13 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to make   
   >>>>>>>>>> independent decisions, providing the security needed to live, work,   
   >>>>>>>>>> and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights of   
   >>>>>>>>> others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and have   
   come   
   >>>>>>>> up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within   
   >>>>>>>> limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add   
   >>>>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's   
   >>>>>>>> will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Like when we drag "illegal" immigrants from their homes and ship them   
   >>>>>>> off to prison or some ugly place.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Breaking laws is like that.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I seem to remember   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> "I do not add   
   >>>>>> 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's   
   >>>>>> will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You did say that right?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A nation is not just a patch of land, it's the people. Collectively   
   >>>> those people have the ability and the responsibility to determine who is   
   >>>> allowed to enter. Our current system chooses who makes the rules via   
   >>>> election. Biden chose to ignore immigration law and allow millions to   
   >>>> enter illegally. Trump has decided to actually enforce the law and has   
   >>>> effectively ended illegal border crossings.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> TLDR: Illegal border jumpers have trespassed, and as such their right to   
   >>>> be here is forfeit.   
   >>>   
   >>> You seem to have forgotten about that "law is the tyrant's will" part.   
   >>> And furthermore   
   >>>   
   >>>> those people have the ability and the responsibility to determine who is   
   allowed to enter.   
   >>>   
   >>> Himbo might have won a small majority in the election, but he did not   
   >>> win a consensus.  And so some of us feel it is our responsibility to   
   >>> stand up and say, you do not speak or act for me, asshole.   
   >>   >   
   >> It's not exactly clear if you have any United States rights. As an   
   >> immigrant, you'd be biased in your opinion anyway. Are you familiar with   
   >> the phrase "We the people..."?   
   >   
   > Listen you directly unto me:   
   >   
   > The U.S. Constitution is a _limit on government_.  You find   
      
   lol, lawyers have done away with such nonsense...   
      
   like what can't the feds regulate???   
      
   > the idea that the Constitution doesn't limit government   
   > outside of U.S. borders.  This has not been tested.   
   >   
      
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