XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/6/2026 6:02 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/6/26 1:41 PM, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/6/2026 2:33 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/6/26 10:33 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/6/2026 1:25 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/6/26 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/4/2026 3:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material) and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property rights   
   >>>>>>>>>> and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own one's   
   >>>>>>>>>> own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally obstructed   
   >>>>>>> in action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You clearly don't understand what's being said there regarding the   
   >>>>>> limits on rightful action.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> and you clearly don't understand what's being said on the vast   
   >>>>> existential obstruction generated thru supposed "rightful action"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't even understand that sentence, so you might be right!   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>    > the reality is the vast majority of people are totally   
   >>> obstructed in   
   >>>    > action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> They are obstructed in their action to take other people's property by   
   >> ethical standards which are agreed upon by an actual real world   
   >> consensus (as opposed to wishes and hopes).   
   >   
   > there is no actually established consensus, because we don't put in the   
   > effort to do any sort of explicit consensus making. there is just a norm   
   > enforced by govt run by those who have the majority of the wealth   
   >   
   > ur too scared to give the world's people an actual voice cause ofc   
   > they'd vote to redistribute the land moron, as most of them have jack shit   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Don't take other peoples stuff and it won't get ugly.   
   >>   
   >   
   > when people hording stuff, especially life sustaining resources,   
   > interferes with a basic right to pursuit of happiness ...   
   >   
   > then yes it will and should get ugly because ur a narcissistic sociopath   
   > u doesn't give a crap about anyone other than ur own greed   
   >   
   > u can take ur ignorance to grave wilson   
   >   
      
   Forced redistribution is not ethical.   
      
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