From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid
On 2/7/2026 1:34 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 2/6/2026 2:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 2/6/26 1:37 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2026 2:18 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2026 10:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 09:39:53 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/5/2026 6:26 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 17:33:09 -0800, Dude
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating for
>>>>>>>> collective
>>>>>>>> or government ownership and administration of the means of
>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>> and distribution of goods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean that you allege that is always how it ends up being.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I mean is, that most socialist leaning countries use
>>>>>> capitalism for
>>>>>> economic growth. Countries that are one party, communist states
>>>>>> that are
>>>>>> socialist end up being the poorest nations on earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nordic countries (like Sweden, Denmark) are social democracies,
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> capitalist economies to fund robust welfare states, a distinction
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> confused with socialism, as Tara pointed out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is why we call them "social democracies". Which does not mean
>>>>> they are welfare states.
>>>> >
>>>> A rose is a rose with another name.
>>>>
>>>> Social democracy combines a representative democracy and a market-
>>>> oriented economy with extensive government intervention, including a
>>>> robust welfare system and progressive taxation.
>>>>
>>>> Look it up.
>>>
>>> Noah's out here redefining words and concepts now.
>>>
>>
>> no he's not ...
>>
> Look it up.
The idea that social democracies aren't welfare states is an obvious
attempt to redefine reality.
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