XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: julianlzb87@gmail.com   
      
   On 07/02/2026 15:53, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/6/2026 6:02 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/6/26 1:41 PM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/6/2026 2:33 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/6/26 10:33 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/6/2026 1:25 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/6/26 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/4/2026 3:03 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/3/2026 1:07 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2/3/26 10:05 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/2/2026 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u built a house on a parcel of land and now everyone in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> entire world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is just supposed to respect that because???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> you used resources that no one produced (land, raw material)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is therefore yours by right of violence indefinitely into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the future???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> what is reality just a giant game of finders keepers???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> u have no problem with landlords, why in the fuck do u have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> a problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with landlords submissive to democratic input???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> it's always such a weird contradiction libertarians display:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> no problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> with "private" landlords, but all the problems with "public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> landlords...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> i'm arguing with submature children tbh, freaking boomernomics   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> could we get a little general decency up in this bitch???   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Nick, for addressing this matter of property   
   >>>>>>>>>>> rights and home ownership.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you've not thought this through.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You own your self, ownership of your own mind and body.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Private property is morally grounded in the right to own   
   >>>>>>>>>>> one's own body, which extends to the fruits of one's labor.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> u are not ur property   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, Nick, in reality you are owned - homeless.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It's for your own protection - from coercion and allow you to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> make independent decisions, providing the security needed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> live, work, and pursue your own happiness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> yeah except most of the world is heavily limited by the rights   
   >>>>>>>>>> of others, and the situation is getting worse by the year   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> People have been thinking about this stuff for centuries, and   
   >>>>>>>>> have come up with some neat ideas.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> those people didn't live in a massive global civilization where   
   >>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of productive land has been claimed,   
   >>>>>>>> with most people are trapped in nation-states they can do little   
   >>>>>>>> to escape, and the population is *still* rising...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will   
   >>>>>>>>> within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I   
   >>>>>>>>> do not add   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> words are fucking cheap   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally   
   >>>>>>>> obstructed in action by all the property rights that has been   
   >>>>>>>> drawn up,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> and u are deciding to stick ur head up ur asshole instead of   
   >>>>>>>> addressing the fundamental contradiction of just the first   
   >>>>>>>> sentence...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>  > take it to the grave bro, we all know u will   
   >>>>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You clearly don't understand what's being said there regarding   
   >>>>>>> the limits on rightful action.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> and you clearly don't understand what's being said on the vast   
   >>>>>> existential obstruction generated thru supposed "rightful action"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't even understand that sentence, so you might be right!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    > the reality is the vast majority of people are totally   
   >>>> obstructed in   
   >>>>    > action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> They are obstructed in their action to take other people's property   
   >>> by ethical standards which are agreed upon by an actual real world   
   >>> consensus (as opposed to wishes and hopes).   
   >>   
   >> there is no actually established consensus, because we don't put in   
   >> the effort to do any sort of explicit consensus making. there is just   
   >> a norm enforced by govt run by those who have the majority of the wealth   
   >>   
   >> ur too scared to give the world's people an actual voice cause ofc   
   >> they'd vote to redistribute the land moron, as most of them have jack   
   >> shit   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't take other peoples stuff and it won't get ugly.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> when people hording stuff, especially life sustaining resources,   
   >> interferes with a basic right to pursuit of happiness ...   
   >>   
   >> then yes it will and should get ugly because ur a narcissistic   
   >> sociopath u doesn't give a crap about anyone other than ur own greed   
   >>   
   >> u can take ur ignorance to grave wilson   
   >>   
   >   
   > Forced redistribution is not ethical.   
      
   Worse, it isn't efficient or effective.   
      
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