From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid
On 2/10/2026 12:53 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 2/10/26 9:06 AM, Wilson wrote:
>> On 2/9/2026 8:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 2/9/26 11:40 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 2/8/2026 3:53 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 2/8/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/8/26 11:48 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/8/2026 2:01 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2026 9:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 12:04:14 -0500, Wilson
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2026 3:19 PM, Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/02/2026 15:53, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/2026 6:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/26 1:41 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/2026 2:33 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is the vast majority of people are totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstructed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action by all the property rights that has been drawn up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are obstructed in their action to take other people's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by ethical standards which are agreed upon by an actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus (as opposed to wishes and hopes).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no actually established consensus, because we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't put in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the effort to do any sort of explicit consensus making.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a norm enforced by govt run by those who have the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the wealth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ur too scared to give the world's people an actual voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ofc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'd vote to redistribute the land moron, as most of them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't take other peoples stuff and it won't get ugly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when people hording stuff, especially life sustaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interferes with a basic right to pursuit of happiness ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then yes it will and should get ugly because ur a narcissistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sociopath u doesn't give a crap about anyone other than ur
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own greed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> u can take ur ignorance to grave wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forced redistribution is not ethical.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Worse, it isn't efficient or effective.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actions that go against natural law are always like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That go against your self interest, or so you would like us to
>>>>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speak for your self.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Natural law asserts that certain moral principles and rights are
>>>>>>>> inherent in human nature. They are universal, and can be
>>>>>>>> discovered through reason instead of being created by society.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The neat thing about natural law is it exists outside of
>>>>>>> ourselves and our beliefs. No one can own or control it. But it
>>>>>>> can be discovered and recognized, because it is truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> natural law, divine right ... what's the difference???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> u wouldn't know rationalism from ur own asshole wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay Nick.
>>>>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAg_BEEWsAAMNuh?format=jpg
>>>>
>>>> Property rights are human rights.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 🙄🙄🙄 anarcho-capitalism is a literal oxymoron: landlords (those
>>> with a right to enforce their will in respect to some lands) *are*
>>> the authority over their lands, even moreso in ancapistan...
>>
>> Anarcho-capitalism simply acknowledges the natural rights of the
>> individual, and respects the product of his labor.
>>
>
> they also totally reject the concept of logic in the process, because
> granting authority to landlords is not getting rid of authority
Authority can mean some different things.
Landlords and renters enter into voluntary agreements. Collectivists
want to think of this as a coercive relationship but that's nonsense.
Landlords are not the state. And a voluntary agreement freely entered
into with a socially enforced mandate for performance is not authoritarian.
Even a completely voluntary society obviously can have persons they
respect as authority figures. Hierarchical structures are necessary for
human beings to function well, especially in groups. I've never met an
Ancap who wants to get rid of all authority as long as compliance to
that authority was not coerced by a state with the legal power to
initiate violence.
All of this is completely logical even if you don't like it or wouldn't
want to live there yourself.
>>> as an non-denominational anarchist (also known as an anarchist): i'm
>>> skeptical of govt action in general, but understand we're far from
>>> ready for anarchy proper, so govt is here to stay for a few
>>> generations at least. and to get that point we will need to
>>> increasing pare back using govt to solve literally everything we
>>> think is wrong like statist do, and develop communally/voluntarily
>>> supported systems instead
>>>
>>
>> With that I agree 100%.
>
> like for example getting rid of patents and copyrights
Like you said, human civilization is a long way from becoming a
high-trust voluntary society. Those sorts of people would fully support
relationships with payments and would not even want to sponge off of
creators for free.
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