From: tsm@fastmail.ca   
      
   On Feb 11, 2026 at 3:35:17 PM EST, "Wilson"  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/11/2026 1:26 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >> Wilson  wrote:   
   >>> On 2/11/2026 9:25 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 20:34:32 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/10/26 7:38 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>>>>> dart200  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/10/26 6:27 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> dart200  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/10/26 11:40 AM, Tara wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> “I’m not discouraged at all. I think we’re living a very   
   important time in the   
   >>>>>>>>>> world. It’s a big shift. It is probably what I would call the   
   beginning of the   
   >>>>>>>>>> end of the American empire. And it has to come, all the empires   
   change, so   
   >>>>>>>>>> now, you know, it’s accelerated, but we are in a very good   
   position, because   
   >>>>>>>>>> we have land, we have the best educated people in the world, you   
   know that,   
   >>>>>>>>>> and we have the tolerance that is a great value, we have the   
   sharing that does   
   >>>>>>>>>> not exist in many other countries, we have less very, very rich   
   people per   
   >>>>>>>>>> capita, but less very, very poor people too in Canada, and we have   
   the unity,   
   >>>>>>>>>> that we have to fight all the time about that...”   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Jean Chretien   
   >>>>>>>>>> Feb 2, 2026   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Former and most loved Prime Minister of Canada   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ok boomer as if canadians don't depend on us for defense   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> they just don't pay taxes into that defense   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Hey little millenial twitt. Ever heard of NATO. We fought  with you in   
   >>>>>>>> Afghanistan and Korea because we are part of NATO yeah. And what it   
   stood   
   >>>>>>>> for.   
   >>>>>>>> As for not paying our share to NATO, as well as other countries, we   
   know   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ya'll spend under the 2% NATO target lol   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> this and are making good on that now.   
   >>>>>>>> We are real clear that you wouldn’t help defend us now. Or anyone   
   for that   
   >>>>>>>> matter. Ok.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> who's ur nuclear daddy?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> oh yeah that's trump right now ???   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You’re sick. Sick in a really bad way.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> and u trust the hysteric news cycle waaaay too much   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But thanks for the opportunity to observe. I’ve learned so much more   
   about   
   >>>>>> Americans from this little group Do you represent most of them?  Or are   
   you   
   >>>>>> an anomaly? I’ll think positive and choose the later.   
   >>>>>> But maybe a microcosm. god forbid.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i still have no idea why u'd reject a chance to have a direct vote on   
   >>>>> the leader for the most powerful military on the planet over "muh   
   >>>>> nationalism"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have no comprehension of why somebody somewhere else on the planet   
   >>>> might resent your opinion of yourselves.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And perhaps such a chance would have very little significance in terms   
   >>>> of outcome.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I, for instance, had a chance to vote against himbo, and I did.  Zero   
   >>>> effect.  Better for me to not be down there with you guys.  Better for   
   >>>> me, and us all, to be uruguans than to try to fight the political mood   
   >>>> down there.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> especially since u consider him a threat   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> but no ... u'd rather let the threat fester???   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> or actually u don't really perceive it as a meaningful threat and are   
   >>>>> hysteric over actually nothing   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> or more likely: u don't actually have coherent views and are just   
   >>>>> reacting off feels u don't even understand. that's what i see as   
   >>>>> probably true, but u always have another chance to reply   
   >>>   
   >>> It's really something to see people take what Nick says as defending the   
   >>> current system. When he obviously wants to dismantle it and replace it   
   >>> entirely.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's clearly true that all of nato relied on the US to pay the bulk of   
   >>> their defense over the past 50 years.   
   >>>   
   >>> Emotional feels do not change that reality.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> No emotional feels or histrionics here. That monetary reality is   
   >> acknowledged and being adjusted. We did however join you in fighting your   
   >> wars. And Canada ( with other nations) has deployed over 125,000 military,   
   >> police, and civilian personnel in UN and other missions to monitor   
   >> ceasefires, protect civilians, clear landmines, and provide aid, with   
   >> Lester B. Pearson even winning a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in creating   
   >> the first UN peacekeeping force after the Suez Crisis.   
   >>   
   >> But what’s that worth, eh. Not much obviously.   
   >   
   > Neither Canada nor the rest of nato are victims. They did the rational   
   > thing and took advantage, allowing the US to pay for their defense as   
   > long it was willing.   
   >   
   > Trump blusters and uses threats and harsh words when strong kindness   
   > might get the job done. Your feelings are hurt. Maybe rightly so. Beyond   
   > him though, as you say things are changing because they need to.   
      
   Speaking for fellow Canadians....It's not about hurt. It's more about the   
   injustice of how we and other countries are being treated. The honest   
   bewilderment of it all. And now the anger. We are slow to anger but when we   
   do....Well, here we are   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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