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   Tara to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: The Three-Body Fortune: (1/2)   
   12 Feb 26 01:50:07   
   
   From: tsm@fastmail.ca   
      
   Noah Sombrero  wrote:   
   > On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 01:24:36 -0000 (UTC), Tara    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Dude  wrote:   
   >>> On 2/11/2026 1:41 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:33:40 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/11/2026 1:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:02:34 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2/10/2026 7:59 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 16:12:36 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/10/2026 2:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 12:49:10 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2026 2:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 12:30:35 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2026 9:37 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 09:29:18 -0800, Dude    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2026 1:43 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What You Name Things Matters, how you treat people matters   
   and why your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day is a dynamical system, how to avoid thing you don't   
   want, and why   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what looks like luck is really a navigational skill   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a problem in physics that has haunted   
   mathematicians since   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton. Three masses in space, each pulling on the other two   
   through   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity. Unlike two bodies — which orbit each other in   
   neat, predictable   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ellipses — three bodies produce trajectories that are   
   exquisitely   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to the tiniest change in starting conditions.   
   Henri Poincaré   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proved in 1890 that there is no general solution. The system   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deterministic. It follows fixed laws. And it is, in any   
   practical sense,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpredictable.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a three-body problem.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not metaphorically. Not loosely. Structurally. You are three   
   masses in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutual gravitational interaction, and the dynamics of your   
   day — whether   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it soars, spirals, or collapses — follow the same   
   mathematics...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mattkilcoyne.substack.com/p/the-three-body-fortune   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, something interesting to talk about and post comment   
   for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion. Thanks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The historical Buddha, 563 to 483 B.C, taught that cause and   
   effect,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rooted in the law of karma were based on intentional actions.   
   All   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voluntary actions of body, speech, and mind produce   
   corresponding   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactions. Supposedly, positive actions lead to happiness,   
   while   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative ones result in suffering, shaping an individual's   
   experiences   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across lifetimes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything that happens, is caused by something else that   
   causes it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then come the thinkers from Greece.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aristotle, 384–322 BCE, who is generally credited with the   
   first formal,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systematic theory of causality in Western philosophy,   
   established the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the law of cause was that there is a specific cause or set of   
   causes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He outlined the "four causes"—material, formal, efficient,   
   and final—in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his works Physics and Metaphysics to explain why things exist   
   and change.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, one thing leads to another, since the beginning of Time.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking time.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does all that fit in with Albert Einstein, the thinker who   
   first   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> established the special theory of relativity in 1905 and the   
   general   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theory of relativity by 1915?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What caused him to do that?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's like asking what was the First Cause?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and it is turtles all the way down.  There is no escaping it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And we have enough excuses for mindlessness without that one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> That's one answer to The Three-Body Fortune. Thanks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Nihilism is the rejection of all religious and moral principles,   
   in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> belief that life is meaningless. YMMV.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That's the thing.  Moral principles need not be meaningful.  It is   
   >>>>>>>>>> enough to have them and understand their worth to a meaningless   
   human   
   >>>>>>>>>> being.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> We studied this at the community college: Political Science (a   
   required   
   >>>>>>>>> course).   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Natural law proponents, from Aristotle to John Locke, have argued   
   that   
   >>>>>>>>> laws enacted by governments are only valid if they conform to a   
   higher,   
   >>>>>>>>> natural, and moral law. It's the basis for inalienable rights such as   
   >>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and property.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You snuck that last one in yourself, didn't you?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Private property promotes efficiency, fosters virtue   
   >>>>>>> (generosity/charity), and enables a virtuous life, though it should be   
   >>>>>>> used for the common good." - Aristotle, Politics   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He must have been well off.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> We studied this in junior college: History 101 (a required course).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Apparently, Aristotle owned no property other than a few finger rings   
   >>>>> and a quill pen.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> However, his father was the royal physician to the king of Macedon and   
   >>>>> Aristotle was the tutor of Alexander the Great.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So, what would he know?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It depends, some think his successors had better ideas.   
   >>>>   
   >>> That's funny. Good one!   
   >>>   
   >>> Apparently, Aristotle is considered the founder of logic, establishing   
   >>> the first formal system for deductive reasoning.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> And Plato was Aristotle’s teacher and mentor for 20 years.   
   >   
   > And it was plato who taught us to think, or was it socrates?.   
      
      
   Socrates taught Plato the Socratic method - we already know the truth and   
   it’s revealed through asking the right question. His most famous quote was   
   that the unexamined life isn’t worth living. He taught Plato the importance   
   of justice and goodness and that the soul is immortal.   
      
      
      
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