From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/11/2026 10:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 18:10:42 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >> On 2/11/2026 1:39 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:15:49 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Most everyone accepts the core premise that there is a universal moral   
   >>>> order, discoverable by reason, independent of human-made law or specific   
   >>>> religious doctrine.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's a pretty big we.   
   >>>   
   >> The key words are "We the people..."   
   >   
   > And that statement did not preface propounding a universal moral   
   > order.   
      
   It actually did do that, inherently and objectively.   
      
   "We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect   
   Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the   
   common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of   
   liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this   
   Constitution for the United States of America."   
      
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