From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid
On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 23:42:41 -0500, Noah Sombrero
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 19:55:00 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2026 7:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You have no right to life. Witnessing a few deaths teaches us exactly
>>>> how fragile we are.
>>>>
>>> You have the right to off yourself, or not.
>>
>> Unless you try and fail, then many people in the world would tell you
>> you had no right to do that.
>
> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose
> certain situations on you, which they still might.
>
> But as far as the universe is concerned. You have no rights. There
> is no natural law to base social structures on.
>
> It there were natural laws that are inherent, universal, and
> inalienable, derived from human nature and reason rather than granted
> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way
> to not receive them. Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,
> and loving spouses. The truth is you have no right to such things,
> and far too many around the world don't have them.
>
> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they
> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And
> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can
> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.
That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.
Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.
When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems
created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human
flourishing.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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