From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/12/2026 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 23:42:41 -0500, Noah Sombrero    
   >> wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 19:55:00 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/11/2026 7:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You have no right to life.  Witnessing a few deaths teaches us exactly   
   >>>>> how fragile we are.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You have the right to off yourself, or not.   
   >>>   
   >>> Unless you try and fail, then many people in the world would tell you   
   >>> you had no right to do that.   
   >>   
   >> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>   
   >> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>   
   >> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than granted   
   >> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way   
   >> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,   
   >> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>   
   >> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they   
   >> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And   
   >> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >   
   > That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >   
   Maybe he made that up. The question now becomes, is he smarter than an   
   fifth grader?   
      
   Another question: what plane is he on?   
    >   
   > Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.   
   > When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems   
   > created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human   
   > flourishing.   
   >   
   It kind of looks like he got mixed up with nature and natural law. There   
   are the laws of nature and their are the natural laws of sentience  -   
   being human.   
      
   Natural law pertains to a noun:   
      
   1. A body of unchanging moral principles regarded as a basis for all   
   human conduct. "an adjudication based on natural law".   
      
   Source: Webster's English Dictionary, 2025 Ed   
      
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